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  • MuayThaiJJ
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2020
    • 1333

    Here's my timeline:

    5/18/2020 COE applied; 06/22/2020 COE issued - 35 days
    5/22 FFL03 charged; 07/02/2020 FFL03 issued - 41 days
    Last edited by MuayThaiJJ; 07-06-2020, 11:15 AM. Reason: FFL issued
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    03-FFL and COE Holder
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    • goldduster
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jun 2009
      • 161

      I've spent a couple of hours searching for the ORI code. Does anyone know what it is?

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      • Dvrjon
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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        • Nov 2012
        • 11225

        Originally posted by goldduster
        I've spent a couple of hours searching for the ORI code. Does anyone know what it is?
        This may help

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        • MARKFP
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2016
          • 529

          Ok guys going to take the jump but not used to the gov forms. Starting with the Live Scan form first because am going to get my prints done for AZ CCW app also.
          Top of form:
          ORI code ?
          Authorized App Type ?
          Type of license = 03FFL ?

          Applicant Info
          Billing # ?

          Next section: Your Number OCA number, I assume if this was required for employment ?

          Employer Section, again for enity wanting live scan ?

          Bottom section for folks doing live scan to fill out ?

          I understand that ATI # will be issued and this scan is sent to DOJ.

          I asw some links here regardind ORI code but were just live scan form links.

          Thanks in advance O Great ones. Mark
          Oh no, not another 1911 !
          "You can't have a good argument with an ignorant person"....My Dad

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          • Dvrjon
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2012
            • 11225

            Originally posted by MARKFP
            Ok guys going to take the jump but not used to the gov forms. Starting with the Live Scan form first because am going to get my prints done for AZ CCW app also.
            Top of form:
            ORI code ?
            Authorized App Type ?
            Type of license = 03FFL ?

            Applicant Info
            Billing # ?

            Next section: Your Number OCA number, I assume if this was required for employment ?

            Employer Section, again for enity wanting live scan ?

            Bottom section for folks doing live scan to fill out ?

            I understand that ATI # will be issued and this scan is sent to DOJ.

            I asw some links here regardind ORI code but were just live scan form links.

            Thanks in advance O Great ones. Mark
            Look at the link in the post above yours for the COE.

            The FFL03 is a separate form and requires no fingerprints or photos. Form. Instructions

            AZ requires print cards for out-of-state CWP. AZ
            Last edited by Dvrjon; 06-10-2020, 1:37 PM.

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            • MARKFP
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2016
              • 529

              Dvrjon, thanks for the reply, but I understand the COE and 03FFL apps are different, my questions pertain to some of the information required on Live Scan form for print service, form BCIA 8016. The outline I gave in my post are questions for that form. They want an ORI code, I assume this pertains to a reference for what Live Scan is for. All previous answers to this question are links to printable version of Live Scan form.
              Oh no, not another 1911 !
              "You can't have a good argument with an ignorant person"....My Dad

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              • Dvrjon
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2012
                • 11225

                Originally posted by MARKFP
                Dvrjon, thanks for the reply, but I understand the COE and 03FFL apps are different, my questions pertain to some of the information required on Live Scan form for print service, form BCIA 8016. The outline I gave in my post are questions for that form. They want an ORI code, I assume this pertains to a reference for what Live Scan is for. All previous answers to this question are links to printable version of Live Scan form.
                I am perplexed....when I posted that link, the form was complete; now it's blank.

                From the OAG USER Guide, Page 22:


                "Your Number" and "Employer" info should be as shown.The LiveScan Operator will provide the ATI Number

                The submittal process through the CFARS system is far faster than snail mail.
                Last edited by Dvrjon; 12-17-2020, 9:07 PM.

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                • MARKFP
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2016
                  • 529

                  Originally posted by Dvrjon
                  I am perplexed....when I posted that link, the form was complete; now it's blank.

                  From the OAG USER Guide, Page 22:


                  "Your Number" and "Employer" info should be as shown.The LiveScan Operator will provide the ATI Number

                  The submittal process through the CFARS system is far faster than snail mail.
                  So I would actually use the information as shown in the "Applicant Submission " section ?
                  Oh no, not another 1911 !
                  "You can't have a good argument with an ignorant person"....My Dad

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                  • Dvrjon
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 11225

                    Originally posted by MARKFP
                    So I would actually use the information as shown in the "Applicant Submission " section ?
                    Yes.
                    Last edited by Dvrjon; 06-11-2020, 12:59 PM. Reason: Lack of reading comprehension

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                    • MARKFP
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 529

                      Dvrjon, sir I greatly appreciate your assistance and am in no way a troll. I am earnestly trying to fill forms out properly and have used links previously posted to print out forms, after 5 attemps of printing no form printed with the information pre loading as did your version. I was aware that some of the info on your example did not apply to me, but was only asking if the info pre loaded in the section of question was also only sample info. I deeply apologize for upsetting your apple cart and cutting your thin skin. I appreciate and respect all the insight and help I've recieved in the past on these boards. I made many searches on here and DOJ's site and could not find the answer to my question. How was I to know that the ORI code and other info was auto entered if I was not getting that version.
                      Oh no, not another 1911 !
                      "You can't have a good argument with an ignorant person"....My Dad

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                      • ajb78
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 1441

                        Originally posted by MARKFP
                        Dvrjon, sir I greatly appreciate your assistance and am in no way a troll. I am earnestly trying to fill forms out properly and have used links previously posted to print out forms, after 5 attemps of printing no form printed with the information pre loading as did your version. I was aware that some of the info on your example did not apply to me, but was only asking if the info pre loaded in the section of question was also only sample info. I deeply apologize for upsetting your apple cart and cutting your thin skin. I appreciate and respect all the insight and help I've recieved in the past on these boards. I made many searches on here and DOJ's site and could not find the answer to my question. How was I to know that the ORI code and other info was auto entered if I was not getting that version.
                        Doesn't this application process go through CFARS now? Does it not populate the correct form to take to the LiveScan place when you complete the COE application through CFARS? Serious questions, have not tried.

                        I have the BOF 4008 COE application saved that I downloaded in July 2017 and it has the BCIA 8016 almost completely populated, sans your personal info.

                        coeapp.pdf

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                        • rmblaster
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1088

                          I also had a problem my live scan form was completely blank even using the link provided in the email from doj .would not even allow me to enter it on the form only allowed me to enter my info so I had to write in the doj info by hand

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                          • Dvrjon
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                            • Nov 2012
                            • 11225

                            Originally posted by MARKFP
                            Dvrjon, sir I greatly appreciate your assistance and am in no way a troll. I am earnestly trying to fill forms out properly and have used links previously posted to print out forms, after 5 attemps of printing no form printed with the information pre loading as did your version. I was aware that some of the info on your example did not apply to me, but was only asking if the info pre loaded in the section of question was also only sample info. I deeply apologize for upsetting your apple cart and cutting your thin skin. I appreciate and respect all the insight and help I've recieved in the past on these boards. I made many searches on here and DOJ's site and could not find the answer to my question. How was I to know that the ORI code and other info was auto entered if I was not getting that version.

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                            • MARKFP
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2016
                              • 529

                              Absolutely no problem sir! I will admit I am severely wounded when it comes to tech savvy and after asking my FFL if he could pull it down and only got a blank form I knew I had to go to higher powers. These boards supply a huge amount of information due to the fact so many of you guys have been there before, that experience and knowledge is greatly appreciated by the majority. We are all in this F'd up state and trying to navigate advancement so that hopefully together we will have a stronger foot hold.
                              Oh no, not another 1911 !
                              "You can't have a good argument with an ignorant person"....My Dad

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                              • rb765
                                Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 466

                                I just got my FFL-03. I submitted them both (03 and COE) on 04/22/20. I received my COE on May 15th. And I just got my 03 on June 15th. Now it's shopping time!
                                "You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once."

                                Robert A. Heinlein


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