C&R FFL Application Form ATF 7CR - use the official BATFE PDF form!

[Capybara]

I will update as soon as I find out what's going on. Glad I didn't wait until my COE was almost invalid to do this, who knows how long it will take them to update it?

Updating, new COE issued today via CFARS, it took four days from my application date to issue. Easy Peasy, print it out, done. Wish we could do the same for our FFL03 renewals.

[CessnaDriver]

For those that have done the dance, recommendations for the best order to do things?

-Fill out the Livescan request form on the COE application and take that to a
Livescan location.

-Mail in the COE and FFL03 application at the same time... or send COE through CFARS.

When should I mail the copies of the FFL03 application to the CLEO?

-Wait for COE and FFL03 to arrive in mail


Anything I am missing?

Thanks

[Dvrjon]

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For those that have done the dance, recommendations for the best order to do things?

-Fill out the Livescan request form on the COE application and take that to a
Livescan location. Yes. You'll need the ATI number (provided by the Livescan operator) from the bottom of your LIVESCAN copy to complete the COE.

-Mail in the COE and FFL03 application at the same time... or send COE through CFARS. COE through CFARS: FFL through mail.

When should I mail the copies of the FFL03 application to the CLEO? When you mail the original to the BATFE.

-Wait for COE and FFL03 to arrive in mail. COE comes by email notification and downloads through CFARS...Print your own. FFL comes by snail mail.

Anything I am missing? Sign and date all copies of the FFL APPLICATION. No photo required for FFL03.

Thanks

[-hanko]

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Originally Posted by CessnaDriver
For those that have done the dance, recommendations for the best order to do things?

Anything I am missing? Sign and date all copies of the FFL. No photo required for FFL03.

Note that you DO NOT sign the original license you get from the ATF.

[1bulletBarney]

For those that have done the dance, recommendations for the best order to do things?

-Fill out the Livescan request form on the COE application and take that to a
Livescan location.

-Mail in the COE and FFL03 application at the same time... or send COE through CFARS.

When should I mail the copies of the FFL03 application to the CLEO?

-Wait for COE and FFL03 to arrive in mail


Anything I am missing?

Thanks

When your FFL03 arrives, do not sign or date your FFL03 and make at least 10 copies of the license, stash original FFL03 & original COE away someplace secure. Use copies for any transactions you make. Sign and date FFL03 copies as needed...

/EDIT/ hanko nailed it...

[CessnaDriver]

Thanks everyone, once I have everything I will post how long it took.

[Cokebottle]

-Mail in the COE and FFL03 application at the same time... or send COE through CFARS.

Only reason to do both at the same time is expediency... you could just as easily mail the 03 application today. The two are completely separate and go to different agencies.

When should I mail the copies of the FFL03 application to the CLEO?

Read the instructions... The area of the application that you sign states "I have...."... past tense, meaning the copy goes to your CLEO before you send a copy to the BATFE.
Realistically, everyone drops them in the mail at the same time... or some like to drop it off at the front counter of the local PD.


While not required, I include a short cover letter with my renewals (and the original application):

[Cokebottle]

Note that you DO NOT sign the original license you get from the ATF.

THIS THIS THIS!

Receive your original, scan it, print a bunch of copies, sign the copies, and send them to places you deal with online to get logged into their system for "dealer" discounts... Brownell's and Midway used to do it, I haven't actually used my 03 for discounts in a long time.

When you travel out of state or buy from a local dealer, they will want to witness you sign your cert. Take your original with you, and take copies to sign and leave with them for their files. Same for private party sales.

I treat the original and copies like ammo and dummy rounds when dry-firing.
I scan the original and it goes into the safe.
I print copies, and BEFORE the original is brought anywhere near them, I rubber stamp "COPY" onto the copy so I don't mistakenly sign the original (ya, modern HP scanners and printers are pretty good)

[Mudrigg]

Is there and easy way to find the most recent links/information for getting FFL03 + CoE? There are quite a few in this 28 page thread and it is a bit difficult to tell what is the most recent and the order in which to do things.

Thanks,
Mudrigg

[userformerlyknownasfitty]

When you travel out of state or buy from a local dealer, they will want to witness you sign your cert. Take your original with you, and take copies to sign and leave with them for their files. Same for private party sales.

Why do you want to bring the original to the dealer rather than just a copy? Just wondering.

[Dvrjon]

Is there and easy way to find the most recent links/information for getting FFL03 + CoE? There are quite a few in this 28 page thread and it is a bit difficult to tell what is the most recent and the order in which to do things.

Thanks,
Mudrigg

The major steps are just above your post: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...postcount=1082

COE process is here: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/cert-eligibility
FFL03 Application/instructions are here: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/instruc...rearms-license

[CessnaDriver]

It was $93 for the livescan.

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ATF charged my credit card for FFL03 on 9/22/17. I think I put it in the mail two days earlier on 9/20/17. Approved approximately two months later on 11/21/17. Received in the mail on 11/29/17. Just in time for me to go to the Phoenix gun show 11/30/17 to 12/3/17, though I didn't buy anything.

Got Livescan and applied for COE on 9/21/17. Issued COE on 11/6/17.

[Cokebottle]

Why do you want to bring the original to the dealer rather than just a copy? Just wondering.

Some may want to see it and make their own copy for you to sign.

[Dvrjon]

Why do you want to bring the original to the dealer rather than just a copy? Just wondering.

They may want to confirm there isn't any "whiteout" or other alteration on it.