C&R FFL Application Form ATF 7CR - use the official BATFE PDF form!

[winchester1]

A big thank you to all who put out so much time and effort to decipher and research this complex issue. After reading 23 pages of toil and pain I think I know a few things and how to proceed:
A) The C&R turnaround application time is a mood thing and could take anywhere from three weeks to six months; depending on the mood of the BATF.

B) Using the official forms increases the odds for a "normal" process cycle.

C) Getting the officail form is a mood thing and they will come in the mail when the BATF is in the mood to do so.

D) American citizens are not required to have a hunting license for a C&R.

E) My CLEO will be a mystery sheriff or police administrator that I must find.

F) A COE requires "livescan" service from an approved livescan service before submitting the COE application; thus, the ATI number for the COE ap.

G) A C&R with a COE might allow me to side-step third party fees if the seller interprets the CA laws my way or if the law doesn't change before I get my forms.

I applaud the incredible displays of patience, maturity, and community in these 23 pages and would like to point out that, for me, getting a C&R and a CEO is no longer as important as knowing the caliber of folks I'll be next to at the shooting bench.

[six seven tango]

E) My CLEO will be a mystery sheriff or police administrator that I must find.

It's not a difficult as you're making it sound.

You're not sending it to some anonymous administrator. You're sending to the Chief or Sheriff personally.

Does the city you live in have it's own police dept? If yes, go to their web site and find the name of the Police Chief. Then find the departments mailing address. Address your notification letter to the Chief and drop it in the mail...done.

If your city contracts to the county Sheriff's Dept, the same applies. Web site for the info and drop it in the mail.

This is only a notification, and does not need to be hand delivered. Keep a copy for your records. You will need to send a letter every time you renew your FFL 03.

G) A C&R with a COE might allow me to side-step third party fees if the seller interprets the CA laws my way or if the law doesn't change before I get my forms.

This only applies to long guns. Handguns must still go thru an FFL 01. You won't be subject to the 10 day wait though. The only exception to this is if you take physical possession of a C&R handgun while you are physically out of state. In this case, you still need to report the acquisition within 5 days of bringing the handgun into CA using form BOF4100a.

[rmblaster]

1/29/16 FFL 03 and COE sent in
1/29/16 live scan done
2/3/16 credit card charged
2/4/16 COE issued
3/21/16 FFL03 issued

[drpatel77]

So I applied for my C&R 03ffl and COE about a month or two ago.
Received my C&R 03FFL license already.
BUT no COE.
Is that normal. From reading other posts, seems COE comes usually before the C&R Lic.
Any advise?
Thanks.

[rmblaster]

1/29/16 FFL 03 and COE sent in
1/29/16 live scan done
2/3/16 credit card charged
2/4/16 COE issued
3/21/16 FFL03 issued
3/28/16 packet arrived

[ChrisBrooklyn]

FFL 03 mailed today, will update you guys as things happen..

i just printed from ATF website, hopefully no hiccups

update, CC charged on may 14,

livescan done today and coe app mailed.. will update again..

hope to be buying stuff from all you guys real soon!

update, got my FFL 03 today june 14, exactly one month from the date of charge.. hooray, now just waiting on my coe..

[Archon_g24]

I sent my FFL application on 5/25 and CA DOJ COE today.

Let's see what happens.

Credit card got dinged on 6/5!

[ChrisBrooklyn]

FFL app mailed 5/9
CC charge 5/14
FFL 03 arrived 6/14

exactly one month..

[Eljay]

@Archon - don't be shocked if the COE takes a while. The DOJ seems pretty swamped. My COE renewal took 5-6 weeks and those are usually faster than new applications.

[ChrisBrooklyn]

@Archon - don't be shocked if the COE takes a while. The DOJ seems pretty swamped. My COE renewal took 5-6 weeks and those are usually faster than new applications.

i called and they said they are taking about 6 weeks..

[Archon_g24]

I'm in no rush. I need to save some $$ before buying anymore guns. Hopefully the right 1911 will come up

[Archon_g24]

I'm a dummy. Transposed a couple of digits in my zip code on the application so they sent it back for a correction. Delayed.

[MR 762]

Hello all and I wanted to say thanks for all the information that has been shared here. This will be my first post here and I have a couple of questions about the process. Any insight / help would greatly appreciated.

I am looking into getting a C&R FFL and I just wanted to double check a couple of things first with respect to the county I would be applying from:

Has anyone had any issues applying in San Mateo County? As far as I can tell there isn't any issue and I would be using this FFL for collector purposes only.

And secondly about the forms themselves:

1) I need to fill out the ATF-F 5310.16 form and submit a copy of the ATF and a duplicate copy to my local police chef (this copy should have the credit card information redacted). For a single person application section #9 should have a single entry and match that of sections #1 - 6? Section #10 should be left blank for a native born US citizen?

2) I would need to fill out form BCIA 8016 contained within the Certificate of Eligibility Application. I would need to check the DOJ and FBI boxes. Upon submission I would receive an ATI number.

3) I would need to fill out the Certificate of Eligibility Application and include the ATI number I received above. For business type would I choose "Collector"?

4) Wait...wait...wait some more.

Thanks again.

[Cokebottle]

That all sounds correct.
This is not a county issued license like CCW... it is from BATFE for the 03FFL and the DOJ for the COE. Your county has no choice in the matter.
The copy of the application to the CLEO is simply an FYI, and the cover letter that I send with mine states that no action is required or requested:

[MR 762]

That all sounds correct.
This is not a county issued license like CCW... it is from BATFE for the 03FFL and the DOJ for the COE. Your county has no choice in the matter.
The copy of the application to the CLEO is simply an FYI, and the cover letter that I send with mine states that no action is required or requested:

Thanks for that example letter. Is it advisable to send via tracked USPS mail or is that over kill?

As for the county part that was also about being curious about any ordinances / laws for the county that would expressly prohibit it. Or places to check to make sure it doesn't. I want to double check myself so as not to get into any trouble. Thanks.