Why no Readymade Featureless AR's?

[SuperSet]

It's usually not the wrap that's the issue, it's that many off-the-rack ARs come with a collapsible stock and flash hider that'll need to be changed.

[The Virus]

You're right. Just an un-official poll that bullet button builds outnumber featureless almost 9:1.

If this is true, it shows that 9:1 AR owners are mall ninjas

[chead]

If this is true, it shows that 9:1 AR owners are mall ninjas

Well, yeah

[GM4spd]

Cause they look like siht.

[Don the savage]

Since when is the use of large capacity mags the only benefit of a featureless build? You actually like using a stupid tool to drop the mag instead of just pressing a button?

But yes, they are nowhere near as popular as BB'd rifles.

No i dont like using a stupid tool but i also dont like wraping my wrist up in the air with an unnatural finger position. If you like it have at it my point is for 90 % of ar shooters a bullet button is an annoyance much like 10 round mags. I hate both things and everyone i show them to that isnt a serious gunny thinks it is stupid too. I have a RAW and when i show them the difference they ask why and my only answer is this is kalifornia, nothing makes sense.
Personally, when i run 3gun or anything that needs fast mag drops i use this

http://www.metaldogtactical.com/gpbuto.html

I put the ring on my middle finger instead of the trigger finger which took some work to get used to but any technique takes practIce. My unwanted input.

[SuperSet]

Well, yeah

If I were a retailer like RifleGear, I'd be selling what my customers wanted. And fixed-mag rifles sell.

[Merc1138]

No i dont like using a stupid tool but i also dont like wraping my wrist up in the air with an unnatural finger position. If you like it have at it my point is for 90 % of ar shooters a bullet button is an annoyance much like 10 round mags. I hate both things and everyone i show them to that isnt a serious gunny thinks it is stupid too. I have a RAW and when i show them the difference they ask why and my only answer is this is kalifornia, nothing makes sense.

LOL, dude... "I just use a RAW instead" isn't exactly an option for most poeple these days. Besides, the hammerhead and monsterman give me roughly the same grip angle as my shotgun, I can live with that.

[Cali-Shooter]

Even with ten round magazines, NOT having a bullet button is great.

Bullet buttons suck. The day I got rid of mine was a great day.

This is especially true for anyone who trains or competes.

Quoted For Truth.

[joash]

No i dont like using a stupid tool but i also dont like wraping my wrist up in the air with an unnatural finger position. If you like it have at it my point is for 90 % of ar shooters a bullet button is an annoyance much like 10 round mags. I hate both things and everyone i show them to that isnt a serious gunny thinks it is stupid too. I have a RAW and when i show them the difference they ask why and my only answer is this is kalifornia, nothing makes sense.
Personally, when i run 3gun or anything that needs fast mag drops i use this

http://www.metaldogtactical.com/gpbuto.html

I put the ring on my middle finger instead of the trigger finger which took some work to get used to but any technique takes practIce. My unwanted input.

How comfortable is that ring? Does it ever fall off?

[Don the savage]

How comfortable is that ring? Does it ever fall off?

It fits over the tip of the finger and stays on pretty well. I have big fingers so it is pretty tight. It's not the most comfortable thing in the world but it isn't uncomfortable to the point you don't want to wear it and it makes mag changes almost as easy as a change in a free state. And they are pretty cheap.

[Don the savage]

LOL, dude... "I just use a RAW instead" isn't exactly an option for most poeple these days. Besides, the hammerhead and monsterman give me roughly the same grip angle as my shotgun, I can live with that.

Okay one more explanation and I am out. I have two bullet button ARs AND a RAW. This allows me to show a COMPARISON of the two types of weapon. I don't bring out my RAW any more because it is too much of a pain in the *** at local ranges. So i shoot my BBed ar i built. But when I show people the BB they think it's dumb. My point was never just use a RAW instead. I have no idea where you found that in my post. I gave an option I use when running my BB and said featureless is ergonomically challenging to most AR users. If you like it have fun. Most people don't and that's why we have BB weapons in the PRK. Hell colt is even making one now. If colt thought they could sell enough featureless to make a profit I'm sure they would have been doing it for years.
As another poster said there is a featureless AR it's a mini14, which I have owned and sold. Merry Christmas

[repubconserv]

Why does no one manufacture a ready made featureless AR that can use high capacity magazines straight out of the box. I would think lots of people would want such a rifle instead of something like a Keltec.

1. Most people in CA can not legally get hi-caps. Those who can get them, or already have them probably have legal rifles to use them in already, or have no problems changing the rifle to featureless themselves

2. Featureless rifles look strange, many people want an AR for looks reasons,

3. Most people probably would prefer the "normal" setup if they could not acquire (not borrow) hi-caps (which they cant for the most part).

[tuna quesadilla]

Since when is the use of large capacity mags the only benefit of a featureless build? You actually like using a stupid tool to drop the mag instead of just pressing a button?

But yes, they are nowhere near as popular as BB'd rifles.

Given this:

You're right. Just an un-official poll that bullet button builds outnumber featureless almost 9:1.

And this:

Cause they look like siht.

I would say you are correct.

[SuperSet]

What was the featureless rifle that was being built in Northern CA? What ever happened to that?

The Blackstar rifle is dead. They couldn't find a manufacturer.
I'm sure the wide acceptance and availability of the Solar Tactical/MMG/HH grips helped to seal its fate too.

[Merc1138]

Okay one more explanation and I am out. I have two bullet button ARs AND a RAW. This allows me to show a COMPARISON of the two types of weapon. I don't bring out my RAW any more because it is too much of a pain in the *** at local ranges. So i shoot my BBed ar i built. But when I show people the BB they think it's dumb. My point was never just use a RAW instead. I have no idea where you found that in my post. I gave an option I use when running my BB and said featureless is ergonomically challenging to most AR users. If you like it have fun. Most people don't and that's why we have BB weapons in the PRK. Hell colt is even making one now. If colt thought they could sell enough featureless to make a profit I'm sure they would have been doing it for years.
As another poster said there is a featureless AR it's a mini14, which I have owned and sold. Merry Christmas

I also bet most of those people have never done anything besides sit at a bench with those rifles. If you think adjusting the grip angle is somehow more ergonomic than letting go of the grip, grabbing a tool, canting the rifle to find the hole, dropping the mag, setting the tool down, and regripping the rifles you've got to be kidding. "But you can just wear a ring on your finger, or rivet a glove, etc." yeah, and it's still not as fast as just pressing a button and it never will be.

You brought up the RAW, not me.

Also, how is a featureless AR a mini 14(especially when some mini14s have flash hiders, collapsible stocks, pistol grips, etc.)? The only thing they have in common is the caliber. Why even bring that up?

Having a working rifle(that includes a working mag release) > having a rifle that works fine but has a broken mag release because the state says so.