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  • joash
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 700

    Why no Readymade Featureless AR's?

    Why does no one manufacture a ready made featureless AR that can use high capacity magazines straight out of the box. I would think lots of people would want such a rifle instead of something like a Keltec.
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    unusedusername
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4124

    Cost mostly. Bullet buttons are cheaper, and featured rifles lets the gun stores sell more high-margin Magpul stuff.

    It really isn't that hard to get one put together for featureless anyways, you just have to be a bit choosy on your parts. Avoid 14.5 uppers with pinned flash hiders.

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    • #3
      glockwise2000
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 2520

      ^^^ +1 for the cost. And how few are very interested in a featureless build?
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      • #4
        Fjold
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        • Oct 2005
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        What was the featureless rifle that was being built in Northern CA? What ever happened to that?
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        • #5
          FNH5-7
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2009
          • 9403

          Featureless AR's wouldn't sell as fast as ones with BB's, they don't look as "tacticool". Ocationally I've come across ones that FFL's have received and converted to featureless just in case someone comes in looking for a rifle in that configuration.
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          • #6
            SuperSet
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2007
            • 9048

            You're right. Just an un-official poll that bullet button builds outnumber featureless almost 9:1.

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            • #7
              Don the savage
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 2094

              Featureless is a niche of a niche. If you could legally buy standard cap mags there would be a market. Why market something that by its nature when sold has a feature (a 10 round mag) that makes the featureless nature worthless? If you have legally owned standard caps and can't deal with a bullet button and 10 rounders then you would seek out a featureless build. How many people does that really apply to? I would figure not enough to be profitable. I don't see many aks being sold with those horrible monte Carlo stock things anymore, mostly because the ergonomics of the design outweigh the freedom of featureless.
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              • #8
                Merc1138
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                • Feb 2009
                • 19742

                Originally posted by Don the savage
                Featureless is a niche of a niche. If you could legally buy standard cap mags there would be a market. Why market something that by its nature when sold has a feature (a 10 round mag) that makes the featureless nature worthless? If you have legally owned standard caps and can't deal with a bullet button and 10 rounders then you would seek out a featureless build. How many people does that really apply to? I would figure not enough to be profitable. I don't see many aks being sold with those horrible monte Carlo stock things anymore, mostly because the ergonomics of the design outweigh the freedom of featureless.
                Since when is the use of large capacity mags the only benefit of a featureless build? You actually like using a stupid tool to drop the mag instead of just pressing a button?

                But yes, they are nowhere near as popular as BB'd rifles.

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                • #9
                  Bobby Ricigliano
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                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 17438

                  Its market forces. The average Joe who walks into the LGS wants the rifle that looks the most bada**. He's not interested in something that looks less cool but is actually functional and viable as a sd/hd rifle.

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                  • #10
                    freonr22
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                    • Dec 2008
                    • 12945

                    IMHO I prefer feature less, why have a collapsible stock that never moves?
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                    • #11
                      JaeOne3345
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 949

                      Originally posted by Don the savage
                      Featureless is a niche of a niche. If you could legally buy standard cap mags there would be a market. Why market something that by its nature when sold has a feature (a 10 round mag) that makes the featureless nature worthless? If you have legally owned standard caps and can't deal with a bullet button and 10 rounders then you would seek out a featureless build. How many people does that really apply to? I would figure not enough to be profitable. I don't see many aks being sold with those horrible monte Carlo stock things anymore, mostly because the ergonomics of the design outweigh the freedom of featureless.
                      Even with ten round magazines, NOT having a bullet button is great.

                      Bullet buttons suck. The day I got rid of mine was a great day.

                      This is especially true for anyone who trains or competes.

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                      • #12
                        Grumpyoldretiredcop
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 6437

                        It's always interesting to instruct a rifle/carbine class using a featureless demo weapon. Lots of, "How can you do that? Isn't that illegal?", followed by a brief explanation of featureless vs. bullet button, followed by little light bulbs over students' heads. Next class you see many of them running a featureless rifle.

                        The bottom line at the user end IMO is that most folks simply don't know about the featureless option. Far more show up instead with a magnetic or red BB tool attached to their featured rifle and have to be told to remove it and why.

                        For the retailer, though, it means they can't sell that customer the aforementioned high-margin Magpul stuff.
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                        • #13
                          HK Dave
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5737

                          Originally posted by joash
                          Why does no one manufacture a ready made featureless AR that can use high capacity magazines straight out of the box. I would think lots of people would want such a rifle instead of something like a Keltec.
                          Because the majority of people that buy ARs in CA don't care about functionality, they just want it to look cool.

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                          • #14
                            CavTrooper
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 5944

                            If the AR was supposed to be featureless, it wouldve been a mini-14.

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                            • #15
                              chead
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 3109

                              I'm sure any shop that sells ARs would slap a wrap on there for you if they stock them.
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