Why no Readymade Featureless AR's?

[Merc1138]

The Blackstar rifle is dead. They couldn't find a manufacturer.
I'm sure the wide acceptance and availability of the Solar Tactical/MMG/HH grips helped to seal its fate too.

Probably the same reason we'll never see the U-15 back. It's probably pretty difficult to justify the cost of the U-15, let alone the blackstar, when there are now grips on the market for $40 or less.

Funnily enough, Benelli makes the MR-1 with a "traditional" stock/grip now.

[X-NewYawker]

Even with ten round magazines, NOT having a bullet button is great.

Bullet buttons suck. The day I got rid of mine was a great day.

This is especially true for anyone who trains or competes.

This is the point! And Merry Christmas!

[JaeOne3345]

Nice rifle!

Most of the people who complain about ergonomics of featureless haven't even tried it.

There are way too many videos of people in competition and training classes with featureless rifles moving around efficiently and kicking arse for that to even be an issue.

[Cali-Shooter]

I'm loving the OD MMG. Excellent color scheme on the featureless there, X-New.

[Full Clip]

^^^ +1 for the cost. And how few are very interested in a featureless build?

Eh, I only have featureless ARs. Tried BBs and hated them.

[NoHeavyHitter]

As the population ages out, there becomes fewer legal owners of high-capacity magazines.

[Cali-Shooter]

^ ^ ^ That is the wicked intention of the law. Saw goes for RAW's. There is essentially no legal inheritance of passed down RAW's which are listed on the ban list for AW's.

[joash]

I want to put together a featureless build. Maybe I'm missing something. If I don't want anything fancy or unusual, can I just get a complete lower, change the pistol grip for a Monsterman and then put a complete featureless upper on it and be done with it? Does anyone offer such a simple fix? I've noticed that most of the cheap uppers come with a flash hider, which would be a prohibited feature. Does anyone make a lightweight, low price upper with a brake instead of a flash hider? or barrel with nothing attached? Or do I have to mess with building a rifle piece by piece?

[SuperSet]

You don't have to mess with it piece by piece. Buy the upper that you want but make sure that the flash hider can be easily removed and replaced with a muzzle brake. You generally only have this problem with 14.5" barrels with a pinned flash hider. A 16" or longer will be fine. Just choose the upper that you want, replace the muzzle brake, then slip on your Solar Tactical/MMG/Hammerhead grip and you're good to go. Make sure you have a fixed stock.

[Fate]

It's easy enough to swap out a flash suppressor with a muzzle brake or thread protector before you assemble the upper onto your "featureless" lower.

All you need is a bench vise, a couple pieces of leather to put on the jaws and a wrench. Clamp the gas block in the vise, padded with the leather and crank the old flash suppressor off. Often you can just reuse the crush washer from the first device with the new muzzle brake you're installing. It's really not that hard.

[sharxbyte]

My take has been for a while now that if you need more than 10 shots at one time, you're pretty well screwed...Either you cant shoot for crap, or you are very VERY outnumbered. Since you don't need the tool to insert your mag loading up quickly for HD is no problem(Besides, an AR for HD? While it would work just fine, pistols and shotguns are much better suited for range and stopping power). Range shooting isn't an emergency, and you normally take time with shots if you're trying for tight groups and not just burning rounds. In SHTF scenarios, BB's, magazine cap limits and features will be the LEAST of our worries. All this criticizing of people with featured builds, slinging around "Mall Ninja" references, etc, is pointless. I choose to have the option and comfort of a featured build. Others prefer featureless with the convenience of removable mags. While the necessity sucks, isn't it nice that we even have the OPTION for such an amazing device? Seriously, this fight has been fought way too often... The freedom (what of it there is) to have guns, let alone have them the way we like them(limitations implied) is one of the great things about living in this country. Judging others for how they choose to be free is just stupid.


I got to shoot mine BB free up in WA while I was there though, which was nice

[imarangemaster]

Being retired LEO and ex-military, I much prefer function over "form" (cool looks).

My KISS carbine (Air Force GAU-5P clone) has a hammerhead: It is a faux flash hider until I get a brake, and the stock is pinned. The hammerhead works best with a pinned collapsible stock so you can grab it and hold it almost like a regular grip.


My Saiga AK has a kydex paddle:


I have too many AK, AR and M1 Carbine prebans to count (along with other prebans I have no weapons for anymore, i.e. mini-14, etc). These mags go back to the 70s, 80s, and 90s as a LEO and FFL. I even had registered AR15 and AK that used them.

[Norsemen308]

cause featureless rifles are gay.... there.... I said it....

then I think logically and my fear is that I am gonna be thrown in the slammer... cops, sheriffs and rangers have proven over and over again they have no clue about the actual law... therefore... when I tell him its "featureless" thats going to equate to "por que" and I rather not go through the hassle of jonny law throwing me in jail over soemthing he has no clue about....

[.40Cal]

You're right. Just an un-official poll that bullet button builds outnumber featureless almost 9:1.

Can someone explain to me, why the OP thinks he can get a high-capacity mag for a "featureless" AR? Featureless or Not - isn't CA law "dictate" that we can't have mags over 10 rounds? I thought that was the CA law !!!

Also, putting on a bullet button, doesn't that make it featureless?

To the OP - you can get a lot of ready made AR with pre-installed BB. Spikes Tactical is one of them, and with high quality and well priced...check it out!

[tuna quesadilla]

Can someone explain to me, why the OP thinks he can get a high-capacity mag for a "featureless" AR? Featureless or Not - isn't CA law "dictate" that we can't have mags over 10 rounds? I thought that was the CA law !!!

No.

Also, putting on a bullet button, doesn't that make it featureless?

No.