The OFFICIAL Exile Machine Hammerhead Discussion Thread

[Exile Machine]

Since the new marketplace rules have kicked in, you might be tempted to respond to a forsale thread with comments, and those are somewhat more restricted now. So comment here if you have comments about the Exile Machine Hammerhead grip. I'll link to this thread from the commercial sales thread.




-Mark
Exile Machine LLC
Dallas Fort Worth Texas
ceo@exilemachine.com

https://www.exilemachine.com

[JeffM]

It's a potato.

[Turbinator]

Do you have a photo of it being shouldered? It looks like the buttstock would sit pretty low relative to where most of us are used to having a buttstock settle in. Just curious. Otherwise, looks good - ingenious way to help us get legal featureless AR's with detachable mags.

Turby

[Exile Machine]

Do you have a photo of it being shouldered? It looks like the buttstock would sit pretty low relative to where most of us are used to having a buttstock settle in.

Thanks! Here's a shouldering photo at the range. About 15% of our customers surveyed choose a Type I config similar to this; none have reported a problem with it sitting too low.


More shouldering photos at this link.

Don't forget that a lot of shooters including competitors and military are holding their rifles this way:


with the buttstock riding very high on the shoulder. This opens up the shooting position considerably and is very comfortable on the neck. We do this in our Type I config above with 2-3x less muzzle rise, and it's just a lot more comfortable to have the whole buttstock pressed into the flesh.

Where the gun sits on the shoulder depends on how you configure it. This configuration (Type III) is by far the most popular, with 60% of our customers choosing to go this route with a pinned collapsible or fixed stock:



About 20% of our customers build the Type II config:


Neither of these last two positions gives any different shouldering from what you'd get with a RAW or free state rifle. The handling's like a wooden rifle though.

[Exile Machine]

Got a question in a post from the commercial deals thread, in keeping with the new marketplace rules I'll answer it here:

Does Any stock fit into the hammerhead? or do you need a special stock?

Any AR-15 stock will screw into the back of a Hammerhead. However, we have found that for normal sized shooters (7 ft tall and shorter) on Type I and Type II Configurations that the entry-length stocks work best. These are fixed stocks around 7.5" long, or collapsible stocks (pinned so they don't adjust).

If you're going to use it in Type III configuration, then any stock that allows clearance for the thumb will work. Most collapsible stocks (again pinned for compliance) and some specialty stocks such as the ACE ARUL stock will work well in this config.

-Mark

[SIGscout]

ahh, yes thank you. all these explanations help, now, eventhough I'm broke I want one in type II.

[wsmc27]

However, we have found that for normal sized shooters (7 ft tall and shorter) on
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7 ft tall yikes!

I am going to try a "Type III" setup soon. Just wanted to add a big THANKS for the quick service Mark provides...

[Exile Machine]

7 ft tall yikes!

I am going to try a "Type III" setup soon. Just wanted to add a big THANKS for the quick service Mark provides...

Thanks! Can't wait to see the photos. I said 7ft tall as kind of a joke. I'm 6-5 and this setup is too long for me:


A2 stock screwed into the back of a Hammerhead. It'll work, but you have to be Herman Munster to reach the trigger.

[Bruce]

Can the Hammerhead be used on a AR-10 type of rifle?

[slipangle]

Here's my little Hammerhead story.

I had seen these on Calguns before, but they always looked "wrong" to me. I couldn't ever put my finger on it.

One day, soon after their opening, I stopped by Parallax Tactical to check out the store. As I was browsing and chatting, I saw a Hammerhead "in the flesh". It was set up with a short (A1?) in the type 1 config. Joe saw me eyeing it and suggested I see how it felt.

Love. True love. I've got one now.

I'm a fairly big guy (6'3, 235), and was never really happy with the ergos of my AR. The stocks were always too short(not LOP, height) and I only got a little connection between the bottom corner of the stock and my shoulder, like the pictures of the serviceman and the lady above.

It was uncomfortable. The hammerhead in type 1 gives me a really stable connection from stock to shoulder. My cheek weld is more consistent, and my neck isn't sore after shooting.


And....it's featureless!!

[Exile Machine]

Can the Hammerhead be used on a AR-10 type of rifle?

Thanks for the question. It will mate to the receiver, and it could be used in Type IV (Grip-Only Underhand) configuration. I think otherwise it would be very difficult to get a thumb in the gap, though this might depend on how thin your thumbs are and your choice of stock:

Customer photo of Hammerhead sample bolted to a Noveske N6 lower

As far as the strength of the product in handling the recoil of the more powerful round, this should not be an issue. The polymer composite parts can be run over with a truck or hammered repeatedly without destruction. Given that the rifle is shoulder-fired, the weak link in that equation is the meat of the shoulder. There is no part of the human body strong enough to destroy a Hammerhead.

The discontinued aluminum product would also help tame the recoil of the larger calibers due to its mass (400g). Parallax Tactical has the only two of those remaining in stock that I'm aware of.

-Mark

[Exile Machine]

Love. True love. I've got one now.

Thanks! Mind if I post your story to our customer reviews page?

-Mark

[perpetual otter]

I've been wanting to try a featureless build. I think my BCM middy will be outfitted with one of these.

[Exile Machine]

UPDATE - FDE Hammerheads are now available. This color is molded-in, not painted. Like every Hammerhead, these are polyamide composite, very strong, very durable.



-Mark

[slipangle]

Thanks! Mind if I post your story to our customer reviews page?

-Mark

Go for it.

Now if you guys just sold the RRA pistol buffer tubes all by themselves, you'd have a currently happy customer that would become even happier!