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  • #31
    postal
    Banned
    • Mar 2008
    • 4566

    Originally posted by dakinejb
    So two of the same guns head to head single shot each,the gun with the brake will be more accurate?
    My last post I misread the question- I thought they were asking about threaded brake vs clamp on brake....

    As to your question, no- they should be identical if the brake was installed correctly. However the one with the brake will get back on target faster.

    However, no 2 guns shoot alike anyway.... get 2 rem 700's off the line in a row... they wont shoot the same.

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    • #32
      postal
      Banned
      • Mar 2008
      • 4566

      Originally posted by CobraRed

      If you shoot far enough, you can have a sip of coffee in between shooting and spotting. My 1250y shots dont seem to be effected by me not having a brake, then again the target is so small and I have enough time that it's pretty rare my scope would be off target by the time of impact.

      Maybe they've never shot short enough
      Exactly!

      my 6.5 creed-
      a`100y shot is 1/10 second
      a 1k shot takes near 1.5 seconds of flight time.
      a 1 mile shot is over 3.25 seconds..

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      • #33
        RNE228
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 2458

        Can you explain what you mean by "timing" the brake?

        Originally posted by postal
        Most brakes are threaded.

        Some use a "crush" washer that literally crushes as you tighten it to index the brake. (time the brake)

        Others are threaded on and need to be "timed" by a gunsmith without a crush washer.

        The ones that have tightening screws without any threads at all... tend to be less effective, loosen easily and sometimes blow off the end of the barrel.

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        • #34
          milotrain
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 4301

          Timing a brake means setting up the amount of threads on the barrel or the brake so that the brake's "up" matches the rifle's "up". It's easier to do this with washers than it is to manufacture the threads for perfect orientation, but the right way to do it is to cut the right length of threading.
          weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
          frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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          • #35
            postal
            Banned
            • Mar 2008
            • 4566

            What Milo said.

            Most brakes have LARGE side ports- some also have smaller vertical ports.

            The brake has to tighten down on the threads, and be aligned correctly vertically. This is known as "timing".

            A "crush washer" is a type of washer that squishes in as you tighten something down on it... so if you tighten a brake with the washer, you keep tightening the brake crushing the washer more, until the brake is oriented correctly. Anyone can do this if you have a threaded barrel.

            The other sleeker install, is a gunsmith installs the brake on the thread, sees how much material needs to be cut away so the the brake will tighten up with no washer, and be oriented correctly.

            They both work, but a smith doing it is much cleaner looking, and not particularly expensive. Randall "AR15 Barrels" does this, and did both of mine.

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            • #36
              postal
              Banned
              • Mar 2008
              • 4566

              Effective, nice looking and cheap....

              Schuler brakes 3 port. Just google schuler brake... I think the site is muzzle brakes and more...

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              • #37
                GJC
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 1864

                Originally posted by dakinejb
                Is there a difference in accuracy between threaded, with a brake and non threaded
                Bummer, that's a little to far
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