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[GJC]

Is there a difference in accuracy between threaded, with a brake and non threaded

Bummer, that's a little to far

[postal]

Effective, nice looking and cheap....

Schuler brakes 3 port. Just google schuler brake... I think the site is muzzle brakes and more...

[postal]

What Milo said.

Most brakes have LARGE side ports- some also have smaller vertical ports.

The brake has to tighten down on the threads, and be aligned correctly vertically. This is known as "timing".

A "crush washer" is a type of washer that squishes in as you tighten something down on it... so if you tighten a brake with the washer, you keep tightening the brake crushing the washer more, until the brake is oriented correctly. Anyone can do this if you have a threaded barrel.

The other sleeker install, is a gunsmith installs the brake on the thread, sees how much material needs to be cut away so the the brake will tighten up with no washer, and be oriented correctly.

They both work, but a smith doing it is much cleaner looking, and not particularly expensive. Randall "AR15 Barrels" does this, and did both of mine.

[milotrain]

Timing a brake means setting up the amount of threads on the barrel or the brake so that the brake's "up" matches the rifle's "up". It's easier to do this with washers than it is to manufacture the threads for perfect orientation, but the right way to do it is to cut the right length of threading.

[RNE228]

Can you explain what you mean by "timing" the brake?

Most brakes are threaded.

Some use a "crush" washer that literally crushes as you tighten it to index the brake. (time the brake)

Others are threaded on and need to be "timed" by a gunsmith without a crush washer.

The ones that have tightening screws without any threads at all... tend to be less effective, loosen easily and sometimes blow off the end of the barrel.

[postal]

If you shoot far enough, you can have a sip of coffee in between shooting and spotting. My 1250y shots dont seem to be effected by me not having a brake, then again the target is so small and I have enough time that it's pretty rare my scope would be off target by the time of impact.

Maybe they've never shot short enough

Exactly!

my 6.5 creed-
a`100y shot is 1/10 second
a 1k shot takes near 1.5 seconds of flight time.
a 1 mile shot is over 3.25 seconds..

[postal]

So two of the same guns head to head single shot each,the gun with the brake will be more accurate?

My last post I misread the question- I thought they were asking about threaded brake vs clamp on brake....

As to your question, no- they should be identical if the brake was installed correctly. However the one with the brake will get back on target faster.

However, no 2 guns shoot alike anyway.... get 2 rem 700's off the line in a row... they wont shoot the same.

[CobraRed]

They've never shot far enough, watched where their shots hit and had to make the adjustments. Threaded barrels are great and having a muzzle brake on it means that a spotter isn't necessary (though its helpful).

If you shoot far enough, you can have a sip of coffee in between shooting and spotting. My 1250y shots dont seem to be effected by me not having a brake, then again the target is so small and I have enough time that it's pretty rare my scope would be off target by the time of impact.

Maybe they've never shot short enough

[Spyder]

So two of the same guns head to head single shot each,the gun with the brake will be more accurate?

No, that's not what he said.

[Spyder]

Because you can have a barrel threaded after the fact if you need to?

I wouldn't go out of my way to get a threaded barrel. If I had a threaded barrel I wouldn't go out of my way to get a brake. I'd rather not have the added noise (which bugs my friends next to me) and have to spend a bit more time looking through my spotting scope.

Eh. Threading the barrel on a five hundred dollar rifle isn't nearly as appealing as just buying a five hundred dollar rifle with a threaded barrel.

Given two identical rifles, other than muzzle threads, and a small cost difference, I'd go with threaded every single time. My Mossberg MVP Patrol is freaking awesome, considering it's a five hundred dollar .308 with a threaded barrel. Nothing else comes close to it, ESPECIALLY when you add the cost of threading it later.

[ar15barrels]

Is there a difference in accuracy between threaded, with a brake and non threaded

You can watch your impacts with a brake.
Not-so-much with a plain muzzle.

It will be easier to shoot smaller groups with a brake.

[postal]

Is there a difference in accuracy between threaded, with a brake and non threaded

Most brakes are threaded.

Some use a "crush" washer that literally crushes as you tighten it to index the brake. (time the brake)

Others are threaded on and need to be "timed" by a gunsmith without a crush washer.

The ones that have tightening screws without any threads at all... tend to be less effective, loosen easily and sometimes blow off the end of the barrel.

[NapalmCheese]

I agree completely

Its better to get the options you might use, than not get the ones you may need. Why not get the threaded barrel?

Because you can have a barrel threaded after the fact if you need to?

I wouldn't go out of my way to get a threaded barrel. If I had a threaded barrel I wouldn't go out of my way to get a brake. I'd rather not have the added noise (which bugs my friends next to me) and have to spend a bit more time looking through my spotting scope.

[Dethyota]

I'm a big fan of threaded barrels, even if I just run a thread protector right now...because you never know.

I agree completely

Its better to get the options you might use, than not get the ones you may need. Why not get the threaded barrel?

[Spyder]

I'm a big fan of threaded barrels, even if I just run a thread protector right now...because you never know.