Ruger Scout Flash Suppressor

[Dannicus]

Heh, I've given plenty of dirty looks to the AR-15 guys spraying hot .223 casings onto my bench and into my lap without any thought or care (I've even had a couple hot casings go down my shirt). But no, to be fair I've never seen someone booted for having too loud a rifle.

If I get hit by cases, I just put up a screen and give the shooter a little nod.

[MadMechanic]

If I get hit by cases, I just put up a screen and give the shooter a little nod.

I was just ribbing a little, didn't mean to derail the topic.

[kauaibuilt]

I put a Surefire Muzzle Brake on mine -- and my wife's -- brought the recoil sensation down to .223 levels -- love it --



This has become my Bug Out gun.

Been thinking about getting this brake. Definitely looks good.

Since people are talking optics - I had an accupoint TR24 on mine w/ the xs rail. Dropped the optic and put on an aimpoint pro. Figured that its not an accurized rifle and im not planning on shooting out past 300-400m. Did 300m in the Army w/ standard sights so Im not worried.

Might even get rid of the XS rail since the PRO sits so high up.

[MadMechanic]

Ok, so speaking of optics, its magnification opinion time.

kauaibuilt brings up a good point. The GSR in its original factory configuration with the 16.5-in barrel is not designed for pinpoint bench-rest accuracy; rather, it is intended for "combat accuracy."

A shooting buddy of mine has recommended I look into a 2-7x variable power scope and use the Ruger scope rings to mount it on the action rather than in front of it. However, to me this seems to defeat one of the key points to this platform: the forward mounted scope.

Now I like the idea of a variable power scope, but I'm not convinced that 2-7x is the way to go. I think some people use 1-4x (or maybe 1.5-4x) but what are your opinions when it comes to a long (or extended) eye relief scope?

[kauaibuilt]

If balance is something youre worried about a conventionally mounted scope is gonna throw the balance off...Trust me!

I like the balance with a forward mounted optic and Im more concerned with speed (red dot) vs accuracy (magnified). Ive never attempted a extended relief scope so I cant comment on it at all. But I can say that I prefer the PRO compared to the TR24 (which is now mounted on an AR).

[Dannicus]

Ok, so speaking of optics, its magnification opinion time.

kauaibuilt brings up a good point. The GSR in its original factory configuration with the 16.5-in barrel is not designed for pinpoint bench-rest accuracy; rather, it is intended for "combat accuracy."

A shooting buddy of mine has recommended I look into a 2-7x variable power scope and use the Ruger scope rings to mount it on the action rather than in front of it. However, to me this seems to defeat one of the key points to this platform: the forward mounted scope.

Now I like the idea of a variable power scope, but I'm not convinced that 2-7x is the way to go. I think some people use 1-4x (or maybe 1.5-4x) but what are your opinions when it comes to a long (or extended) eye relief scope?

I think the GSR is capable of better accuracy than you give it credit for. The short barrel isn't as much a handicap for accuracy as it is for range, imo. It's certainly not a bench rest rifle, but it's good enough for the average shooter to benefit from magnification. It's good enough for 1 MOA groups in my hands, so probably better with a better nut behind the scope.

I never used long eye relief scopes before I got the scout. Now that I have, I really like it. It makes it easier for my dominant eye to "take over" with both eyes open for some reason. Maybe because so much of my vision is normally obscured from my non-dominant eye by a conventional set up.

[MadMechanic]

Did you try removing the flash suppressor and taping the barrel to make sure it is the flash suppressor and not the rifle harmonics?

I have a couple rifles that ring, and it is not because of the flash suppressor. It is caused by the harmonics of the over all rifle. And in some cases as the rifle loosens up the ringing will subside.

I went ahead and removed the flash suppressor and cycled the action several times. Rifle/Barrel is quiet.

I then took the flash suppressor (still off the rifle) and flicked it and heard the 'ring' I mentioned earlier loud and clear. So in this instance it is not my barrel harmonics ringing, it is in fact that flash suppressor.

[flyingmunkey]

there's plenty of people that have posted the same thing about the tuning fork syndrome. I did and it's why I changed mine.

as far as scopes go, I no longer have the leupold that's in my picture. I use a leatherwood 2-7x ler scope and I have no problem banging steel out at 600 yards.

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[kenl]

I put one of these (not the .308, but sized for .375) on my 338wm. Sort of minimalist, reduces recoil less than the aggressive designs, but still makes it easier to shoot it while not chasing my neighbors away. I'd guess that it now feels about the same as a .308.

http://www.tacticool22.com/shop/308-muzzle-brake-black-p-117.html

[8200rpm]

So now for the question that I suspect I already know the answer to: Is there such a thing as a muzzle brake & flash suppressor?

The ubiquitous A2 flash hider IS a compensator AND flash suppressor. It's not absolutely perfect at either job, but for the price and simplicity, it's hard to beat.

The concensus on the best flash suppressor is the Smith Vortex or AAC Blackout. Both will RING MUCH LOUDER AND LONGER than the Ruger AC556-style birdcage that you are trying to replace.





The most effective muzzle brakes are the side port brakes like the Surefire MB762 and JP Compensator, or similar design...





There are HYBRID brake/flash hiders from various mfg. They are not as effective at either role when compared to a dedicated flash hider or dedicated brake. For the CO$T, BULK, and the marginal benefits for a general purpose bolt gun like the GSR, I don't think it's worth it.





Standard thread protector or a cheap A2 is my vote for the GSR. For heaven's sake, it's a bolt action, hunting carbine. There are better autoblasters out there to fulfill anyone's Ninja Team 6 fantasies.

[MadMechanic]

Well, I have a lot to think about now. To be honest, most of those flash suppressors (and even the 'hybrid' ones) looks too "tacti-cool" for my taste, I'd like to keep my GSR functional and tasteful (in my eyes anyway).

I suspect I will probably go for a dedicated muzzle brake, which one remains to be determined, but if this thread has taught me anything, its that there are a lot of options out there.

I would like to thank everyone who has replied to this thread, your responses have been helpful and constructive.

I will try to remember to post some pictures of my rifle when I get the new muzzle brake, as well as report back on performance if I opt for a brake that hasn't been mentioned/tested so far on the GSR.

[X-NewYawker]

And when you have a SF MB, you can do THIS:

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

I have never noticed any ringing from my Scout or its factory flash hider... but that ^ will be a good reason to mount a Surefire comp on it later this year.

[urbantactical5150]

I have a griffin armament on my scout. It loud but reduced recoil.

[MadMechanic]

One more thing I'm curious about is the 'Linear Compensator.'

I've seen these mentioned on a couple sites and it puzzles me how a device that redirects the blast forward (IE same direction the bullet is already traveling) can reduce felt recoil.

Does anyone have any experience with these? Do they in fact reduce felt recoil? They might be a good range-neighbor friendly option and they seem to tend cheaper than true muzzle brakes like the Surefire.