7mm Rem. mag.

[LynnJr]

Its really tough to put labels on these chamberings as everything comes down to the bullet used.
With the 30-06 you can buy ammo from 55 grains to 240 grains and you can stretch that another 15 grains on the low end and another 10 grains on the heavy end if your a reloader.
With the 7mm Remington you can buy ammo from 110 to just around 200 grains and can do a touch better if you reload.
A typical Barnes 7mm TTSX bullet will have a G1 bc around 0.450 while the Warner flatline will run 0.721 which is a huge swing.
On the 30-06 side of things the remington accelerator 55 grain ammo exceeds 4000 fps but the accuracy isnt great and on the other end finding the old 250 grain Sierra MatchKing bullets is nearly impossible to find anymore.

On a good note with chosing a modern bullet design you can still hunt in California and get better downrange performance today than you could 10 years ago for both chamberings.

[Kevin11mee]

I think both are excellent cartridges; pick what you like. The 7mag shoots higher bc bullets at a higher velocity, so its ballistics will be fantastic. You can get heavy .30 cal bullets with high bc's but the .30-06 pushes them a bit slow. As far as non-lead, the Barnes 168 TTSX shoots great from my .3oo win mag. Barnes also has a 139 grain LRX in 7mm. Both should be really accurate.

[Calif Hunter]

I never saw much advantage to the 7mm Mag over a .270 or .30-06 at normal hunting ranges of 350 yards or less. For larger animals, I use my .300 Mag. For long range shooting at antelope or deer, I use a .257 Wthby - that is flat shooting as far as I am going to stretch it! For a back up rifle on a hunt, I usually use my .30-06. I like the max point blank range method of sighting in and do not dial up.

[Cowboy T]

Gotta say, the .30-06 seems to be able to do just about everything well. German Salazar was winning hi-powered rifle competitions with his .30-06 with 200gr bullets and H4350. I've used some of his advice in my own loads.

Does a 7mm Rem Mag have an advantage? Yes, if you're shooting past 1,000 yards, it certainly does. This is due to the aerodymanics of the 7mm bullets, which can be really phenomenal, without kicking too much more than a .30-06. That's really what the 7mm RM was designed for, long-distance shooting at game animals across canyons and such.

But for anything within 1,000 yards, I really don't see what more a 7mm RM can do over a .30-06. My Superformance loads in .30-06 with the 178gr Hornady bullets do really well. Same for the Hornady 208gr with H4350.

Now, if you'd just like to play around with a belted magnum cartridge, then the 7mm RM is a mighty fine cartridge, which will hit targets out to a mile if you use the right load. Yes, it can stay supersonic out that far...just barely...but it can. That's a looooong way out there. The 7mm RM has put down elk at over 1,300 yards. There are many fine rounds out there, and the 7mm RM is one of those. It's popular, too, and for good reason.

[homelessdude]

I can't see a mile anymore. And a scope that would get me there would be moving around so much I probably couldn't hit anything that far away. Not to mention what that scope would cost. Like most people who have owned/shot rifles all their life as you get older you want to play around with some of the calibers you passed on earlier. I have enjoyed my 300 savage, 30:06s. .270s. 300 wsm, .308s, .556/223s and a few others. Who wouldn't love to find a nice older rifle in 25:06, .243 or 7mm just to enjoy it. I had a Browning 300wmag BAR that to me was one of the most beautiful well engineered rifles ever made. I lost it in a fire many years ago. To this day if I found another one like it I would replace it. I was mostly a .30 cal. guy so I'm catching up on some of the others.

[FISHNFRANK]

For sale

The 7mm Remington Magnum is a great cartridge however, you may want to also seriously consider the .280 Ackley Improved. Think the latter would be getting my vote.

https://www.americanhunter.org/artic...s-7mm-rem-mag/

I have a 280 Ackley for sale. The stock is too long for me but I’d like to buy another. It makes a lot more sense than a 7mm Mag esp when you consider 13 grains more powder to get another 75 FPS. It also has a lot more recoil

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=26419242#post26419242

[homelessdude]

I'll pass on the extra recoil.

[ar15barrels]

The stock can be shortened for far less than it would cost you to sell the gun and buy another one with a shorter stock.

[Kevin11mee]

I think that .280 AI you have for sale is a sweet deal. Too bad I don’t need another hunting rifle. Hope you sell soon. The AI’s are really cool I think.

[trailblazer87]

7 mag, 30-06, 300 win mag, nothing wrong with any of them. They will all take anything in North America. I have a 7 mag I'm looking at rebarreling into a 28 Nosler, finally burned out the barrel on the cheap Savage 7 mag, it only took 25 years to do so.

The benefit a 7 mag has is that flat ballistic arc, a 350 yard zero gave me 3" high at 100 and 3" low at 500, well within the kill zone for a deer with a 175 grain Hornady ELD-X.

[CheapBloke]

Sorry noob here. Is 7mm RM comparable to 7mm-08?

Just wondering as I have a 7mm-08 encore, and I think I can get the 7mm RM as well, but if the difference isn't that great, I may as well skip it.

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[trailblazer87]

Sorry noob here. Is 7mm RM comparable to 7mm-08?

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No, big difference, the 7mm-08 is basically a necked down 308, the 7mm Rem Mag is a slightly shortened and necked down 300 Win Mag, big difference.

[ar15barrels]

Sorry noob here.
Is 7mm RM comparable to 7mm-08?

Just as similar as 308 and 300 win mag which is to say NOT similar.

[sigstroker]

7 mag, 30-06, 300 win mag, nothing wrong with any of them. They will all take anything in North America. I have a 7 mag I'm looking at rebarreling into a 28 Nosler, finally burned out the barrel on the cheap Savage 7 mag, it only took 25 years to do so.

The benefit a 7 mag has is that flat ballistic arc, a 350 yard zero gave me 3" high at 100 and 3" low at 500, well within the kill zone for a deer with a 175 grain Hornady ELD-X.

What a crappy piece of ****!

28 Nosler must be very $$$. Do you reload? Even the brass is probably spendy, although I suppose you could theoretically make it from .300 RUM, which isn't exactly cheap either.

[trailblazer87]

The original question was about 7 mag. 28 Nosler is the same diameter as a 7 mm, just faster and typically uses heavier bullets. In my case the barrel is shot out and rather than ditch the gun I would like to step up to something faster for ringing steel at longer distances. 2 different subjects.

Not sure why that warrants the personal attack.

And for what its worth, I do hand load, and am willing to wait until a barrel becomes available, along with the brass.