Bergara LRP?

[Jimmy's]

What a Donkey.

[negolien]

Remington fanboys LOL

Don't know anything about the Bergara but Hold your ground on not wanting a Remington.

LOL NS huh talk about fan boys and I thought the Glock dudes were bad. Bergara is an awesome rifle I almost got the HMR instead of my Ashbury. Couldn't pass it up due to the price or I'd be shooting an HMR right now.

[Jimmy's]

Don't know anything about the Bergara but Hold your ground on not wanting a Remington.

LOL NS huh talk about fan boys and I thought the Glock dudes were bad. Bergara is an awesome rifle I almost got the HMR instead of my Ashbury. Couldn't pass it up due to the price or I'd be shooting an HMR right now.

Where does it state I'm a fan boy of either?

[LynnJr]

Jimmy's
Your constant and never ending criticism of the Remington 700 speaks volumes to those that actually know something about bolt action Rifles.
You don't own any rifle that will outshoot one of my 700's and you most likely never will. If you ever get the chance to shoot an accurate rifle it would be an opportunity you should take.

SigStroker
And I don't want a Remington, which is what every gunsmith seems to want to push.

Ask yourself WHY EVERY GUNSMITH pushes the 700?
And yes there is a very valid reason.
Ask yourself why every custom is a Remington clone and yes there is a very valid reason.
It sounds like your main goal is finding a rifle every gunsmith has a ton of experience with and for that just look for one that has the most parts on it like a Savage.

As to your Bergara question on the stock it is a XLR stock and they are very nice stocks. If you want to shoot it off of a bench no chassis stock is any good for that purpose. Yes you can add tracking rails or a accuracy asset to help them out or you can simply start out with the right parts in the first place.
I didn't see were you are located but if your in northern California you are welcome to shoot some of my hunting and bench guns to see how they function.
At our NorCal November match we had a lady shooter at her first 2000+ yard match shoot one of my rifles and with less than 20 rounds fired she qualified for 2586 yards and became the first lady to ever do that. 100 grains of powder a 300 grain bullet and virtually no recoil no muzzleblast and easy to shoot.

In the end it's your money so spend it as you think best. We are here just trying to help people avoid costly mistakes.
It doesn't take that long to build a semi custom anymore. GrabaGun has Remington 700 actions for around $325. Grizzly has Bartlein Barrels in stock as do many others so a week maybe two. Everybody has Jewell triggers. The biggest wait is getting a gunsmith to screw on the barrel but the end product is so accurate you won't believe it.

[Guns and guitars]

I am in the process of purchasing a b14 in 7mm for a back up hunting rifle.

At the store I work part time at we sell alot of Bergara's and have not one complaint. Nice off the shelf weapons for the cost!

[colossians323]

b14 looks like a great value

[FishnHunt]

I have no dog in this fight and don't have the knowledge of some of you guys. but I understand what the OP is saying. Go with what you want.
Would like to see a stock, out of the box similar bergara vs the famous 700 vs tikka and see who the winner.

[Cadre]

Stared with a question lol

https://youtu.be/ajfiE3iq78k

[Kwikvette]

Stared with a question lol



https://youtu.be/ajfiE3iq78k

[LynnJr]

Cadre
Cute video if we where talking about similarly priced rifles but we aren't.

FishnHunt
The Bergara sells for $2300 the Tikka runs $800 and the Remington runs $450. The Remington with a custom barrel runs $1100 and will outshoot the $2300 Bergara.
In out of the box form the most expensive rifle should always outshoot the cheapest rifle but this is not always true.
A dedicated Benchrest Rifle will outshoot any tactical or PRS rifle hands down and cost half as much.
You can't take a dedicated Benchrest Rifle to a Tactical or PRS type match and expect to win but not because it won't shoot but because it is not the rifle to use for that type of shooting.
In the end most shooters will buy what THEY WANT and won't take the advice of anyone else.

[sigstroker]

Jimmy's
Your constant and never ending criticism of the Remington 700 speaks volumes to those that actually know something about bolt action Rifles.
You don't own any rifle that will outshoot one of my 700's and you most likely never will. If you ever get the chance to shoot an accurate rifle it would be an opportunity you should take.

SigStroker
And I don't want a Remington, which is what every gunsmith seems to want to push.

Ask yourself WHY EVERY GUNSMITH pushes the 700?
And yes there is a very valid reason.

Because they make money fixing it's shortcomings. I prefer starting with something better designed in the first place.

As to your Bergara question on the stock it is a XLR stock and they are very nice stocks. If you want to shoot it off of a bench no chassis stock is any good for that purpose. Yes you can add tracking rails or a accuracy asset to help them out or you can simply start out with the right parts in the first place.

I've said multiple times I have zero interest in bench or bullseye shooting, other than zeroing and developing loads. It bores the living hell out of me.

[sigstroker]

Cadre
Cute video if we where talking about similarly priced rifles but we aren't.

FishnHunt
The Bergara sells for $2300 the Tikka runs $800 and the Remington runs $450. The Remington with a custom barrel runs $1100 and will outshoot the $2300 Bergara.
In out of the box form the most expensive rifle should always outshoot the cheapest rifle but this is not always true.
A dedicated Benchrest Rifle will outshoot any tactical or PRS rifle hands down and cost half as much.
You can't take a dedicated Benchrest Rifle to a Tactical or PRS type match and expect to win but not because it won't shoot but because it is not the rifle to use for that type of shooting.
In the end most shooters will buy what THEY WANT and won't take the advice of anyone else.

When that advice consists of continually telling me how great benchrest rifles are, I don't care. Yeah, a dumptruck will haul a lot more stuff than my 4 door sedan, but I still don't want a dumptruck to drive to work. Because I don't need one.

And when you claim a $450 Remington with an $1100 barrel, with no action work, no trigger work, no extractor work, and no stock work, still out shoots a $2300 Bergara it makes you look disingenuous.

[Kwikvette]

When that advice consists of continually telling me how great benchrest rifles are, I don't care. Yeah, a dumptruck will haul a lot more stuff than my 4 door sedan, but I still don't want a dumptruck to drive to work. Because I don't need one.

And when you claim a $450 Remington with an $1100 barrel, with no action work, no trigger work, no extractor work, and no stock work, still out shoots a $2300 Bergara it makes you look disingenuous.

He meant $1,100 in the action witha new barrel.

Anyway, back to your point. I'd like to know what your intended use is since you don't intend to hunt, but you also don't want an overly accurate rifle (for less money). You want something with warranty because you're set on the fact that the rifle will possibly need to be worked on; bolt guns just don't break. Doing a tactical shoot of some sort?

This is a genuine question regarding you purchasing a Bergara.

[Lamski]

The Bergara LRP street price is around $1800 or so and is an outstanding rifle for the money. If you like the XLR chassis and would buy one anyway for whichever rifle you choose the LRP is an incredible value. Look at all you get from it... Bergara premier action (Made in the USA and better then the B-14 action), An XLR chassis (~$600+ value), Timney Trigger (~$120 value), Cerakote action and barrel (~$200 value), 20MOA mount (~$100 value), Dead Air Break Suppressor Mount (~$80 value), AICS Magazine.

To get all this put on a Remington would cost you way more and don't forget to add in gunsmithing costs if you get a Remington action and custom barrel... Around $200-300 for labor alone.

I went with a custom action, Criterion barrel and an XLR Element chassis. However if I had decided to go with a factory gun it would have been the Bergara LRP for substantially less money then what I paid. The LRP is an incredible value in my opinion if you like all the extras it comes with.

My very very close 2nd choice would have been the Tikka T3X CTR 24" barrel and I would have replaced the stock with the XLR Element. Finished price around the same as the Bergara LRP.

[FishnHunt]

Lynn, you and other missed the part where I said ‘similar’ rifles out of box.
That means plain tikka t3 is around 500 and I’ll put it up against any $500 Remington. If entry level bergara is 600 or $700. Then Get all 3 rifles around the same price.
I know I have seen Remington 700s for more than $450, especially their tactical Ones. I want to compare apples to apples.