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  • sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19648

    Bergara LRP?

    Are any of you gunsmiths and/or long range experts familiar with the Bergara LRP? The difference in the real world street prices between the LRP and LRP elite is about $500. Besides the obvious difference of the Elite having the Magpul stock, is it worth the 500 bucks over the non-Elite?



  • #2
    Kwikvette
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 3704

    Don't mean to derail but why spend that much on a factory rifle when you can have a custom build made to your liking.

    Sure the wait time sucks, but that's the only con I see.
    Originally posted by longrange1
    my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
    Originally posted by XDJYo
    Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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    • #3
      sigstroker
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2009
      • 19648

      I don't want a custom rifle. I want something with a warranty, that more than one person on earth can work on. And I don't want a Remington, which is what every gunsmith seems to want to push.

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      • #4
        NorCalFocus
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 3913

        Originally posted by sigstroker
        I don't want a custom rifle. I want something with a warranty
        Ever seen Tommy Boy? "if you want, I can take a **** in a box and mark it guarantied. Because all your buying is a guarantied POS"

        I'm not saying that the Berga is a POS. But from reading their warranty, it leaves it pretty open.

        It has a guaranteed capability of producing sub-1.0 MOA or better groups at 100 yards with factory match grade ammunition. Every Premier Series Rifle is qualified for accuracy prior to leaving our facility. Each rifle must shoot three consecutive 3-shot groups, all sub-1.0 MOA to qualify. Once completed, we included a copy of the target itself, as well as the information on the factory load used, the date, and the shooter who qualified this rifle.
        that more than one person on earth can work on. And I don't want a Remington, which is what every gunsmith seems to want to push.
        Why do you think every gunsmith works off of Remington based actions? (oh BTW what design is that Berga action? Yup its a Remington designed/patterned action.)

        Also if you have a gunsmith that tells you they can't work on a bolt action rifle because its not a 700 or then your using the wrong smith.


        It sounds like you have some misconceptions about custom rifles vs factory.
        Last edited by NorCalFocus; 12-29-2017, 8:13 AM.

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        • #5
          CobraRed
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 1018

          Originally posted by sigstroker
          I want something with a warranty, that more than one person on earth can work on.
          So the name Bergara stood out to you? i don't see much sense here.

          Buy a 700 5r. Better than the Bergara 1moa guarantee, you dont need a gunsmith to ever touch it.
          If you want it looking all tactical, get the gen 2 black one and put whatever chassis you want on in it. No gun smith needed, just a screw driver and torque wrench.



          This is coming from a Winchester 70, Savage 10, Rem 700 and Defiance build owner. it's just the better choice.
          If you want to buy something to be different, nothing wrong with that. But dont expect to find many that are willing to work on it.

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          • #6
            longrange1
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2015
            • 1032

            Originally posted by Kwikvette
            Don't mean to derail but why spend that much on a factory rifle when you can have a custom build made to your liking.

            Sure the wait time sucks, but that's the only con I see.
            i asked the same question in another thread.

            Originally posted by NorCalFocus
            Ever seen Tommy Boy? "if you want, I can take a **** in a box and mark it guarantied. Because all your buying is a guarantied POS"

            I'm not saying that the Berga is a POS. But from reading their warranty, it leaves it pretty open.





            Why do you think every gunsmith works off of Remington based actions? (oh BTW what design is that Berga action? Yup its a Remington designed/patterned action.)

            Also if you have a gunsmith that tells you they can't work on a bolt action rifle because its not a 700 or then your using the wrong smith.


            It sounds like you have some misconceptions about custom rifles vs factory.

            EXACTLY!!

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            • #7
              Whiskey_Tango
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 1588

              Ever look at Fierce? 1/2 MOA Guarantee. $2,050.


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              • #8
                Jimmy's
                Veteran Member
                • May 2016
                • 2600

                Don't know anything about the Bergara but Hold your ground on not wanting a Remington.

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                • #9
                  TMB 1
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 7153

                  Originally posted by sigstroker
                  I don't want a custom rifle. I want something with a warranty, that more than one person on earth can work on. And I don't want a Remington, which is what every gunsmith seems to want to push.
                  Get a Savage 110 or Remington 783. Almost everybody can work on them.
                  sigpic

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                  • #10
                    BMWguy206
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1034

                    Originally posted by sigstroker
                    Are any of you gunsmiths and/or long range experts familiar with the Bergara LRP? The difference in the real world street prices between the LRP and LRP elite is about $500. Besides the obvious difference of the Elite having the Magpul stock, is it worth the 500 bucks over the non-Elite?



                    http://www.bergarausa.com/bergara_pr...lite_rifle.php
                    The LRP Elite has a more expensive chassis and is slightly heavier. Not something that's really used for hunting.

                    With the LRP (non-elite) you can't attach a Magpul PRS, or similar style stock with molded anti-rotation dowels, without modification to the stock.

                    For 2018 models, Bergara will start using TriggerTech triggers instead of Timney.

                    I'd probably get the LRP model and put the rest of the money towards a scope.

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                    • #11
                      Kwikvette
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 3704

                      Originally posted by sigstroker
                      I don't want a custom rifle. I want something with a warranty, that more than one person on earth can work on. And I don't want a Remington, which is what every gunsmith seems to want to push.
                      Looks like a lot of people echoed my post so I'll add a little more.

                      Bolt actions have so few parts that warranty is a non-issue.

                      I don't understand your "more than one person on earth can work on" statement

                      Do you think a custom build can only be handled by 1 person? I don't understand the logic there. For example, I've got a Remington 700 that was done over by Predator Custom Shop (when they were still doing work). Spartan Precision spun a new barrel (Bartlein), installed a trigger (Timney), and more. The rifle does 5 shot groups in the .3's and would do better with a better shooter behind it. Point being, multiple people have touched this rifle and it is a laser. If I need a new barrel a few years from now, anyone can put a new one on since it's only a Remington 700.
                      Originally posted by longrange1
                      my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                      Originally posted by XDJYo
                      Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                      • #12
                        sfvshooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 1199

                        Originally posted by Kwikvette
                        Don't mean to derail...
                        And yet that's exactly what you did...

                        I guess it's true when someone says "don't mean to ___" that's exactly what they plan on doing.
                        Too many rifles, not enough time...

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                        • #13
                          Kwikvette
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 3704

                          Originally posted by sfvshooter
                          And yet that's exactly what you did...

                          I guess it's true when someone says "don't mean to ___" that's exactly what they plan on doing.
                          You're absolutely right.

                          At first I was only looking for a short response, and when I received it I left it a lone until others chimed.

                          To the OP, someone recently posted their Bergara in the gallery. Maybe they'll chime in shortly.

                          Sent from my SM-G920T1 using Tapatalk
                          Originally posted by longrange1
                          my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                          Originally posted by XDJYo
                          Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                          • #14
                            Kingair001
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2015
                            • 2357

                            I would go for the cheapest Tikka you can find

                            And a custom barrel

                            This will turn it into a 0.25 MOA or better rifle

                            And modify the rest down the road . . .
                            WTB : Bren Ten - WTB : Wildey 45 & 475 Magnum

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                            • #15
                              sigstroker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 19648

                              Originally posted by Jimmy's
                              Don't know anything about the Bergara but Hold your ground on not wanting a Remington.
                              If you don't know anything about the Bergara why are you posting in this thread? The Bergara B17 action resembles the Remington a little from the outside, but it's different. There, now you know something about the Bergara.

                              Originally posted by Whiskey_Tango
                              Ever look at Fierce? 1/2 MOA Guarantee. $2,050.


                              http://fiercearms.com/products/fury-models/fury-model
                              Originally posted by BMWguy206
                              The LRP Elite has a more expensive chassis and is slightly heavier. Not something that's really used for hunting.
                              Not interested in hunting at all. Unless you consider the small possibility that I might blow up some prairie dogs as hunting.

                              With the LRP (non-elite) you can't attach a Magpul PRS, or similar style stock with molded anti-rotation dowels, without modification to the stock.

                              For 2018 models, Bergara will start using TriggerTech triggers instead of Timney.

                              I'd probably get the LRP model and put the rest of the money towards a scope.
                              Good to know. The stock on the regular LRP doesn't look like it would ride a bag very well, but the good thing about chassis is that it should be easy to screw on a bag rider.

                              I saw a youtube where a guy really gushed over the Elite saying it was a huge bargain but didn't really explain why.

                              Originally posted by Kwikvette
                              Looks like a lot of people echoed my post so I'll add a little more.

                              Bolt actions have so few parts that warranty is a non-issue.

                              I don't understand your "more than one person on earth can work on" statement

                              Do you think a custom build can only be handled by 1 person? I don't understand the logic there. For example, I've got a Remington 700 that was done over by Predator Custom Shop (when they were still doing work). Spartan Precision spun a new barrel (Bartlein), installed a trigger (Timney), and more. The rifle does 5 shot groups in the .3's and would do better with a better shooter behind it. Point being, multiple people have touched this rifle and it is a laser. If I need a new barrel a few years from now, anyone can put a new one on since it's only a Remington 700.
                              If it breaks, I don't want to find a gunsmith to hammer on it, I just want to send it back to the factory. I don't want a situation where a gunsmith I take it to says "oh that guy that worked on it before screwed it up" and end up with a finger-pointing argument.

                              I just don't see the point in buying a custom rifle if I can find one I like right off the shelf. I don't brag to other people about how much I spend on guns.

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