Savage 110 BA Problem

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

This thread reminds me of exactly why I decided to buy once, cry once and buy a custom, or at minimum a semi-custom rifle with an aftermarket barrel.

But, OP I am glad they have problem hopefully resolved and you will be getting it back within a reasonable leadtime.

That being said, I am still trying to wrap my head around how it can be that off-center that you bottomed out your windage. On your NF, you have 45 minutes (12.3mil) of elvation and if you cut that in half, that is 22 MOA (6.15 mil) in either direction of adjustment for wind. That is A LOT...and you bottomed out at 25 yards?

I suspect there is more to the story than an off center bore.

And...finally, they installed the barrel and it is now going out for fluting and machining??? So, they are going to flute the barrel with the receiver on???

That is correct. Per the Supervisor at Savage, each barrel when torqued to proper specification to the receiver might be slightly off center from the next so the fluting/machining does not take place until after the Barrel is torqued to the receiver as ar15barrels pointed out.

Custom is definitely next for me but I'm not ready to spend that kind of $$$ on a long range sniper rifle until I decide if I really want to get into 1000 yard plus shooting as regular routine when I exercise my 2nd Amendment options of self defense/hobby.

"I'd rather be judged by 12 than be carried by 6"

[Shakey]

Remington is facing a class action law suit involving 7-1/2 million people over their model 700 Trigger that is going to cost them upward of over HALF A BILLION DOLLARS TO SETTLE, and you want to trash Savage's Accutrigger? Are you F'ing serious?

The only "problem" with the Walker trigger is that it is end-user tunable to very light pull weights. Don't worry, Savage triggers do NOT have that problem.

[LynnJr]

Yeah a woman points her gun at her son and releases the trigger during an elk hunt and All Remington triggers are bad.
You should atleast know the story before you try and use it.
The biggest problem with Remington triggers is people working on them that are clueless and believe me Savages turn is coming.
The accu triggers change pull weight about every 5 shots and its only a matter of time before the lawyers catch up with them.
And I gave the trigger away to a Calgun poster.

[diver160651]

Savage 110 BA Problem

I'm not ready to spend that kind of $$$ on a long range sniper rifle

Long range precision rifle~ or field gun



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[In My Cold Dead Hands]

Long range precision rifle~ or field gun



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Forgot to mention that... Bad reference on my part

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

As for the manufacturer bashing, I'm not going in that direction. A firearm is a tool and tools can wear out over time. My frustration was that mine was fresh out of the box but Savage made it right. EVERY MANUFACTURER HAS THEIR ISSUES. Persistence is key in getting them to respond. I wish I could bring my 2008 F150 back to ford and say it doesn't get the same gas mileage it did back in 2008, or that it needed new brakes. Any machine/ tool will require maintenance over time. No firearm is invincible. I'm also willing to wager that when my rifle is returned in perfect working order, a highly trained/experienced pro such as the late Chris Kyle or Carlos Hathcock could hit targets under harsh conditions with it with better success than over 99% of any given target shooting population. I'm an avid golfer and I see tons of ametuers spend thousands of dollars on equipment but they can't play the game worth of squat. It's not the equipment, it's the user....

[killshot44]

I'll take that bet.

It's a Savage, get over it.

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

Yeah and once again depending on who you talk to, many claim them to be very accurate rifles...

[TMB 1]

The only "problem" with the Walker trigger is that it is end-user tunable to very light pull weights. Don't worry, Savage triggers do NOT have that problem.

Depends how old the Savage is. The older 110 has an adjustable trigger that's equal to my old Remingtons. Neither have been a problem for me.

[LynnJr]

No. What they don't have is a $1/2 Billion dollar law suit liability. Because the end product they produced was a hazardous POS for over half a century. And they managed to do jack $h!t about it, because it would have cost them .47 cents a rifle to fix. Sorry to ruin your day with a bit of fact and reality.

Your not ruining anyone's day because what you are claiming as facts are not facts.
Remington announced a trigger recall and half the schmucks on Calguns went for it. None of them had a problem with there triggers they just wanted a freebie.
Some stupid lady shoots her son and can't handle the fact it was her fault and 60 minutes jumps all over it.
Most custom actions are patterned after the Remington 700 because its the best design out there today.
Most aftermarket triggers are Remington 700 clones for the same reason.
There are no Savage clone triggers because the design sucks.
When you upgrade away from a Svage trigger you put a 700 clone trigger in its place.
Here is mine that is replacing the Accu Trigger that wouldn't hold the same pull weight for 5 shots.

[billt]

Your not ruining anyone's day because what you are claiming as facts are not facts.
Remington announced a trigger recall and half the schmucks on Calguns went for it. None of them had a problem with there triggers they just wanted a freebie.
Some stupid lady shoots her son and can't handle the fact it was her fault and 60 minutes jumps all over it.
Most custom actions are patterned after the Remington 700 because its the best design out there today.
Most aftermarket triggers are Remington 700 clones for the same reason.
There are no Savage clone triggers because the design sucks.
When you upgrade away from a Svage trigger you put a 700 clone trigger in its place.
Here is mine that is replacing the Accu Trigger that wouldn't hold the same pull weight for 5 shots.

You type all that silly bull$h!t, then want to talk about "facts"? Are you F'ing serious. No matter what you want to label it with, it changes nothing. The FACT is Remington is going to have to pay over $1/2 Billion dollars, (that's BILLION with a B), because they tried to save .47 cents per rifle.

For the record, I happen to agree that all of those law suits were brought on by what amounts to nothing more than negligence on the part of the shooter. What happen to the most important rule of gun safety? You never let the muzzle cover ANYTHING you do not want to destroy?

It doesn't matter because they sued.... and Remington LOST. And they lost big time. Over and over, in law suit after law suit. What they did was stupid. Perhaps the worst business decision ever made. They traded .47 cents per rifle on an improvement the designer himself, (Mike Walker), recommended, for what ended up to be a 1/2 Billion dollar settlement that festered and brewed for 53 YEARS. You can call that a lot of things, and stupid should be at the top of the list.

And you're trying to compare all of that to a single Savage trigger you've had issues with. I have 3 Savage Accutrigger's, and every one of them have performed beautifully and flawlessly. So you got a bad one. Big deal. And because of that you trash talk Savage, and praise Remington? Don't make me laugh. And for what it's worth I currently own and shoot 3 Savages and 4 Remington 700's. That changes nothing.

[Shakey]

For the record, I happen to agree that all of those law suits were brought on by what amounts to nothing more than negligence on the part of the shooter.

So, you agree that there is nothing wrong with the Walker trigger!

And you're trying to compare all of that to a single Savage trigger you've had issues with.

Yes, the Accutrigger has problems!

That changes nothing.

I'm so confused. Look billt, if you want to upset LynnJr just write something like "I hear Bryan Litz looooves the Walker trigger" then stand back and watch his head explode. You are letting your Savage fanboyism get in the way of a good troll.

The Rem700 style trigger is great because you can tune it or toss it and use one of the ~20 aftermarket options. The Accutrigger is less desirable because you are pretty much stuck with what you get, there is relatively little aftermarket support. Just like stocks and just about every other accessory, there's generally much more available for Remington.

[JMP]

The Accutrigger is less desirable because you are pretty much stuck with what you get.

Yep, and good triggers costs money. If you aren't getting your rifle from Accuracy International, Anschutz, or a few others, you probably need to replace the POS anyways.

And, yep, I also heard that Bryan Litz is LynnJr's mentor.

[bsumoba]

Yep, and good triggers costs money. If you aren't getting your rifle from Accuracy International, Anschutz, or a few others, you probably need to replace the POS anyways.

And, yep, I also heard that Bryan Litz is LynnJr's mentor.

So far, I like the Ruger RPR trigger

[billt]

So, you agree that there is nothing wrong with the Walker trigger!

You just can't get it, can you? It just keeps slipping by you. It doesn't matter what I think. Or what you or anyone else thinks. Remington made a stupid business decision, period. Then doubled down on it and made matters worse by sticking to it over countless law suits, that went on for over half a century. Losing most every one of them. Because of that stupidity they now have to pay out a financial settlement so large, that it will more than likely bankrupt them. (They were on the verge of bankruptcy when they were bought out by Cerberus Capitol Management). This should all but finish them off. Gun companies are not made of money.

Now, tell me what you or me thinking the Walker trigger is the greatest thing since Monday Night Football, has to do with any of this?

Yes, the Accutrigger has problems!

No. YOUR Accutrigger has problems.

I'm so confused..........

You most certainly are!