Savage 110 BA Problem

[ar15barrels]

I'm not understanding this hard on you seem to have for Savage? They produce some of the most accurate out of the box rifles manufactured. Everybody let's a bad one get out once and a while. I've heard of far fewer issues with Savage bolt action rifles than most others. Especially in regards to accuracy.

Crap can still be accurate.
Accuracy is not the only measure of quality.

[dozer wright]

Heres a little advice before sending it off to Savage You hopefully have a bipod put a shoot and see dot as far away in your house as possible. Where you have a solid platform to,set the rifle on the bipod,kitchen counter and such. Pull the bolt look down the bore align the dot now set your windage? Does this bring your windage adjustment back? if your 40 mils off at 25 yards it will be the same is huge . If this dosnt work then send it back. But if you can align the scope with the dot and bore you know that the guns fine. And I can not tell you enough do this. Before wasting your time. Just trying to help.

[LynnJr]

To check for a bent barrel simply look down the bore and watch the shadow.
The shadow should be straight and it should stay straight as you rotate the barrel.

[russ69]

Then the problem has to be in the mounting holes in the receiver....

Not necessarily. It could be something worse than that. Perhaps a barrel with an off center gun drill or a problem with the shoulder or threads. I'm fairly experienced, so I would be measuring things until I found out what the problem was but that is a bit too much to ask for a new shooter. Sending it back for inspection is a pain but it is the right thing to do.

[wpage]

Good advice... Simple is key. Pull the bolt and look down the barrel at the range. Use a Carpenters square and check for bends...

[UberPatriot]

Try this. Remove the scope and rings from the rifle. You're going to have to anyway. Then get yourself a long metal straight edge. You can use a good carpenters level if you have one. With someone holding the rifle, or with it sitting in a rest, put the straight edge or level against the side of the scope base. Look at the straight edge and compare it to the barrel. Both should be parallel. You'll see any discrepancy right away. This won't take 5 minutes, and it will identify the problem immediately. Your gun is out of whack enough for it to show clearly.

If your barrel is a straight contour you can use this method to detect if it's "bent", as well. Remember .015 is a 1/64th of an inch. You can easily see that with the naked eye. Machinist scales are marked to .010.

I use this method when adjusting the scope mount on my M1A, it works.

[billt]

Try this. Remove the scope and rings from the rifle. You're going to have to anyway. Then get yourself a long metal straight edge. You can use a good carpenters level if you have one. With someone holding the rifle, or with it sitting in a rest, put the straight edge or level against the side of the scope base. Look at the straight edge and compare it to the barrel. Both should be parallel. You'll see any discrepancy right away. This won't take 5 minutes, and it will identify the problem immediately. Your gun is out of whack enough for it to show clearly.

If your barrel is a straight contour you can use this method to detect if it's "bent", as well. Remember .015 is a 1/64th of an inch. You can easily see that with the naked eye. Machinist scales are marked to .010.

[billt]

If you check the thread history you'll see that I mounted 3 different scopes with 3 different sets of rings, all with the same results....

Then the problem has to be in the mounting holes in the receiver. This regardless if the barrel is "bent", (which I highly doubt), or if the holes are drilled out of whack. You still have but 2 choices. Re drill the base mounting holes, or use offset inserts in Signature Zee Rings to realign the scope. Your only other option is to send it back to Savage and wait and wonder if they'll correct it.

[billt]

I have seen some really crooked savage barrels.

That's Savage QC at work...

It is a Savage after all. We are not talking about high precision parts here.

I'm not understanding this hard on you seem to have for Savage? They produce some of the most accurate out of the box rifles manufactured. Everybody let's a bad one get out once and a while. I've heard of far fewer issues with Savage bolt action rifles than most others. Especially in regards to accuracy.

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

I am surprised that Savages have grown to over $2k. You can get a lot of rifle with that money.

Totally with you on that one. I'm a lefty and they offer a left handed bolt. I was going back and forth between the Savage and a Barrett but Barrett does not make a lefty bolt....

[JMP]

I am surprised that Savages have grown to over $2k. You can get a lot of rifle with that money.

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

This^^^

I gave a friend of mine a nice vintage scope and rings, he mounted it and went shooting.
When he returned he was angry said my scope was crap and couldn't hit the target once.

Later he realized the scope was not properly mounted and had to eat crow.

If you check the thread history you'll see that I mounted 3 different scopes with 3 different sets of rings, all with the same results....

[UberPatriot]

Before you send it out, where are you located? Might be something simple that you overlooked, its always great to have a second opinion before spending more money.

This^^^

I gave a friend of mine a nice vintage scope and rings, he mounted it and went shooting.
When he returned he was angry said my scope was crap and couldn't hit the target once.

Later he realized the scope was not properly mounted and had to eat crow.

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

Before you send it out, where are you located? Might be something simple that you overlooked, its always great to have a second opinion before spending more money.

So I know this is a long thread but this firearm was new out of the box that I picked up last Saturday. Still under 100% warranty from Savage so they're paying the shipping, etc. I'm just a greedy, selfish right-winger that doesn't want to wait 3-6 weeks to play with my new toy that I've invested $6,000 into between the firearm, optics, ammo, accessories. I own over 40 firearms and have never had this kind of problem before. I have had several very experienced shooters tell me that Savage are very accurate guns etc but then I've also seen some Savage bashing. My gripe is really over their turnaround time. I paid $2,100 for the firearm (BEFORE CALIFORNIA TAX AND BS DROS, ETC) They should be willing to expedite it since they don't have any authorized gunsmiths to work on it locally. Savage is based out of Massachusetts

Also I've taken it to J&G gunsmithing and The Gunrange. Both think its a barrell problem or muzzle end/muzzle brake problem and want $$$ to look at it

[MongooseV8]

ok guys, didn't mean to get anyone into arguments over this. I do love the popcorn eating emoticon though. I'm sending the rifle back to savage.

Before you send it out, where are you located? Might be something simple that you overlooked, its always great to have a second opinion before spending more money.