Savage 110 BA Problem

[billt]

Another thing worth mentioning, is if your base screws are far enough off to require full windage adjustment to correct it, you should be able to see the misalignment of the scope with your barrel by just looking at it. 40 MOA is A LOT of adjustment. I could easily see it on mine. I knew I had issues before I ever went to the range. You have something drastically out of whack, that's for sure.

[dozer wright]

[QUOTE=In My Cold Dead Hands;17510663]i don't think Im explaining this correct or thorough enough. The laser sight that I have fits in the chamber it looks like a .300 win mag bullet but shoots a laser.
This is the style I SPOKE OF THE one I had in 223 was perfect 308 was so far off it was a joke .Pull your bolt and bore sight the scope . Also your rounds are to lite for the gun . I promise you 100%

[ar15barrels]

The laser sight that I have fits in the chamber it looks like a .300 win mag bullet but shoots a laser out of it. I use the term bore site because the laser is streaming down the bore of the firearm. If I can get this zeroed with all 3 scopes and have plenty of windage adjustment in each direction from the laser dot, how can live bullets be shooting so far to the left?

Those laser bore alignment devices are often NOT sending the laser down the middle of the bore.
You will get better results by simply looking down the bore with your EYE.

As for the gun needing all the windage to get zeroed, that's just a faulty gun or scope mount base.

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

Forget the laser, or any other type of mechanical boresighter. They are not needed on a bolt action rifle. Do as Mongoose suggests. Pull the bolt out and boresight down the bore itself with your naked eye with the rifle solidly in a rest. Then look through the scope with your maximum adjustable windage cranked into it. If both the barrel and scope are close at that point, you most likely have improperly drilled base screws.

If that's the case you then have 2 choices. Re drill them, or go with the Burris rings and inserts I linked you to.

I thought the same thing but wouldn't the issue show up with the laser dot as well??

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

[QUOTE=dozer wright;17510713]

i don't think Im explaining this correct or thorough enough. The laser sight that I have fits in the chamber it looks like a .300 win mag bullet but shoots a laser.
This is the style I SPOKE OF THE one I had in 223 was perfect 308 was so far off it was a joke .Pull your bolt and bore sight the scope . Also your rounds are to lite for the gun . I promise you 100%

I gotcha Dozer, I'm thinking since the gun is so new I'm going to bite the bullet (no pun intended) and send the fn thing back to savage. A supervisor there has told me 155 grain should shoot fine at 25 yards but would give me elevation issues at longer distances but should not effect windage at that distance...

[ar15barrels]

I had the same issue with my Savage 10 FP in .308. Actually I had 2 problems with it. First was it did not come with plug screws in the scope base screw holes. So the threads were full of that spray on matte finish coating crap they spray the gun with. I had to take it to a gunsmith and pay him $25.00 to re tap all of the holes out so I could get screws into them.



Then after that, I found after I mounted the base, scope, and rings, the scope was severely out of line with the bore to the left. Well beyond the windage adjustment of the scope.

I bet it was more of a problem with the barrel being bent (and therefore not pointing the same direction as the receiver) than the actual holes being crooked on the receiver.
I have seen some really crooked savage barrels.

[UberPatriot]

Those lasers are only meant to get you on paper, but you don't need them

First thing I do when I mount a new scope is sight it in at 25 yards, if I hit paper I adjust windage to center my hits on the bullseye,
then I raise the elevation about 3" over bullseye.
After that I try shooting out to 100 yards and fine tune it.

[ar15barrels]

I thought the same thing but wouldn't the issue show up with the laser dot as well??

If the barrel is bent, and the laser is actually emitting straight from the chamber, the laser will not be coming out of the barrel in the center of the bore.

This is why your eye is more dependable.
Your eye will look down the center of the bore regardless of bore curvature.

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

I bet it was more of a problem with the barrel being bent (and therefore not pointing the same direction as the receiver) than the actual holes being crooked on the receiver.
I have seen some really crooked savage barrels.

well, you would think if they're going to charge $2000 and up for a rifle that the damn thing should get tested with live rounds before it leaves the factory. Disappointed to say the least....

[billt]

I thought the same thing but wouldn't the issue show up with the laser dot as well??

As has been pointed out, those laser bore sighters do not fire the laser down the center of the barrel. They can, and in fact are off a lot from unit to unit. Only use them if you're forced to like on a semi auto or lever action. On a bolt action they are not necessary. They can cause more problems than they solve.

[UberPatriot]

I bet it was more of a problem with the barrel being bent (and therefore not pointing the same direction as the receiver) than the actual holes being crooked on the receiver.
I have seen some really crooked savage barrels.

I guess I got lucky with my Savage 10 fp sr it's the most accurate rifle I own, sub moa even with a budget scope.

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

If the barrel is bent, and the laser is actually emitting straight from the chamber, the laser will not be coming out of the barrel in the center of the bore.

This is why your eye is more dependable.
Your eye will look down the center of the bore regardless of bore curvature.

yeah that makes sense as the width of the laser is not .308 but rather a millimeter or so. Looking down the barrel from the bolt end with my own eyes, I could see nothing that would tell me the barrell was bent...

[billt]

I bet it was more of a problem with the barrel being bent (and therefore not pointing the same direction as the receiver) than the actual holes being crooked on the receiver.
I have seen some really crooked savage barrels.

It was the holes. I could plainly see it when I put a 18" straight edge against the scope base. The holes were a mile off. I don't see how it made it out of the factory that way.

[UberPatriot]

Have you asked the range officer where you shoot to look at it?

[In My Cold Dead Hands]

yup, the gunsmith there thinks its the barrel