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  • Paperchasin
    YOU are next!!
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2010
    • 6407

    Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
    Would would happen if you were "dococking" as you simultaneiously pulled the trigger? down range of course. Is there risk of a shot?
    Yes. Don't do it.
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    • Garyson1311
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 539

      I CCW a Sig and I rack the slide and then use the decocker at least once per day in order to carry the gun with one in the pipe while the hammer is down. That being said, I have never had an issue and feel very comfortable using the decocker.

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      • sigfan91
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2009
        • 12660

        Originally posted by Deimos887
        ^ ah looks like you caught me trolling *eye roll*

        I saw it happen... you can take my word on it or look thru my post history for more bogus posts

        Now it wasnt my firearm and there mayve been more damaged to it than that... as far as I knew all that was damaged that was replaced was a sear spring..
        I don't doubt your word. Something else must have gone wrong other than just the sear spring. Something deactivated the hammer block safety AND the firing pin safety.

        As far as I know, the sear only catches the hammer. The trigger lifts the firing pin safety and possibly unblocks the hammer.

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        • sigfan91
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2009
          • 12660

          Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
          Would would happen if you were "dococking" as you simultaneiously pulled the trigger? down range of course. Is there risk of a shot?
          Sig decocker only "trips" the sear without lifting the firing pin block nor does it unblock the hammer.

          Pulling the trigger will lift the firing pin block as well as unblocking the hammer, in addition to its primary function, which is to work the sear to release the hammer.

          Decocker at that point is irrelevant.

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          • hossb7
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 3285

            Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
            Would would happen if you were "dococking" as you simultaneiously pulled the trigger? down range of course. Is there risk of a shot?
            Probably. Why would you risk it by having your finger on the trigger?
            We in Bangor, Maine now baby.

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            • SoCalEnthusiast
              Senior Member
              • May 2013
              • 1734

              i just wanted to know i'd never put anyone at the range in danger.

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              • SacTown
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1784

                Manually lowering the hammer on a Sig is about as stupid as decocking a 1911. Use the decocker as the weapon was designed and call it a day.
                sigpic SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM

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                • SoCalEnthusiast
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 1734

                  Originally posted by SacTown
                  Manually lowering the hammer on a Sig is about as stupid as decocking a 1911. Use the decocker as the weapon was designed and call it a day.
                  Does this go for a Beretta 92FS or Storm as well?

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                  • whipkiller
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 3461

                    Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
                    Does this go for a Beretta 92FS or Storm as well?
                    Does the Beretta have a De-cocker? If it does, that might be a big hint.

                    That was a rhetorical question by the way- I already know the answer, I'm trying to get you to think for yourself.

                    Ask yourself "Self, why would the engineers design in a de-cocker?"
                    Too many hobbies, Too little time.

                    Mind you, I'm 5'7", 180, with a visible Ab...

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                    • SoCalEnthusiast
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 1734

                      I meant to manually decock the gun. Not to use the decocker if it has one.

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                      • whipkiller
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 3461

                        Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
                        I meant to manually decock the gun. Not to use the decocker if it has one.
                        We're on page 4 of this, and you're still asking about manually de-cocking a gun with a de-cocker?!

                        Okay, I have a question; Why would you want to do that?
                        Too many hobbies, Too little time.

                        Mind you, I'm 5'7", 180, with a visible Ab...

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                        • sigfan91
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 12660

                          Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
                          I meant to manually decock the gun. Not to use the decocker if it has one.
                          It's stupid to manually decock the gun if the gun has a decocker built in, only because humans fail more often than machines.

                          Manually decocking the gun is dangerous. I cringe every time I see one done in a Hollywood fantasy.

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                          • SoCalEnthusiast
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 1734

                            I wouldnt want to do that. I was just questioning if the sig and 1911 applies to a beretta. Sorry if you mis understood.

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                            • sigfan91
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 12660

                              Originally posted by whipkiller
                              Okay, I have a question; Why would you want to do that?
                              Because everyone does it in Hollywood and it sure looks cool on the big screen.

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                              • sigfan91
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 12660

                                Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
                                I wouldnt want to do that. I was just questioning if the sig and 1911 applies to a beretta. Sorry if you mis understood.
                                Don't think of guns as name brands. Think of guns as types of operation.

                                Most Sig classic P series and Beretta 92s and a host of other semi auto pistols are DA/SA. That's their family. Then you sub divide them into ones with decocker and without; with manual safeties and without.

                                Some Sig classic Ps are DA only. Some Beretta 92s are also DA only.

                                Some Sig Classic Ps are SA only, like the X5, with the exception of X5 All Around.

                                Most 1911 types are SA only. I remember one from Para Ordinance was DA/SA. I don't know if it has a decocker. Obviously it operates differently than other 1911 types.

                                Another huge family is the Glock operation. They are striker fired and neither DA nor SA, but something in between due to internal mechanics and trigger pull weight. I believe XD, M&P, Ruger's SR, and S&W Sigma, are all derived from Glock's design. There are subtle differences, but mostly the same.

                                Brands are important, but not as important as the type of action and how the gun fits the shooter's hand and preferences. Find one you are comfortable with. Learn everything about it. Shoot it, a lot. Make it an extension of your hand. Take it apart and learn the inner workings of it. Then branch out to other types of guns.

                                I started with Sig P226. Then moved onto other P series before I bought other types of pistols. Even now, I don't know much about my non Sig pistols. I shoot them and clean them. That's about it. I won't rely on them in a life or death situation because I am not as comfortable with them as I am with Sigs.

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