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  • #31
    Uglyd
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 1320

    From the Baer, any out of the box colt is a downgrade. With SA, I'd say you need to go TRP or PRO otherwise you'll likely notice way too many things lacking in a regular production 1911 coming from the Baer as your litmus.
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    • #32
      den888
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2009
      • 10520

      I like Colts...

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      • #33
        yankee-pete
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 666

        Originally posted by California44
        I think Colt would be my first choice, then later, the Springfield. I was 'this close' to getting the XSE as my first gun until I purchased a consigned super-tac LB. I later purchased an older Colt Gold Cup National Match. Nice bluing, old school look with some upgrades over the original. I don't own a Springfield but will probably some day. Lots of Calgunners recommend the Springfield I think because you get more for you money than a Colt roll mark. But I still prefer Colt since its the original.
        This is just it. The reason people sometimes choose Colt over Springfield. Colts are the original and nice to look at and are good guns, however, Springfield is higher quality. If you want a gun that is made in America, go TRP or Professional.

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        • #34
          FUBAR
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 2453

          Originally posted by rugersigkimber
          How did you like the Ruger SR1911? I know you don't have it now, but I'm curious about this gun, and I'm wondering what you thought if it.
          It's a nice gun. The satin finish is beautiful and the gun was well put together. The barrel lock up and slide to frame was tight and didn't rattle much. There was some play in the trigger but broke cleanly at around 5-6lbs. I sold it because I'm not a fan of stainless steel on semi autos. If you can get it around $650 it's a great buy but if you pay over $700, I would pay a little more and get a Sig XO. I had a Sig TacOps that just felt awesome. It was fitted extremely well with a nice trigger. The XO is pretty much the same but without a light rail, magwell, and ambi safety. I sold the TacOps to fund the Baer but I miss the TacOps a lot. As a railed 1911 goes, the TacOps is a great buy. Only thing I didn't like were the small thumb safeties.

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          • #35
            rambutan316
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 705

            My only 1911 is my Springfield MilSpec, so I would say Springfield!

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            • #36
              Vin63
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1218

              Originally posted by FUBAR
              ...I want something simple, parkerized...
              Not sure if this matters too much, but the steel Colt XSE would either be blued or stainless (I think the aluminum Commander can be ordered with a Cerakote), and the SA would come with the Amory Kote finish, or stainless. Unless you were going to send which ever one you purchased out for custom Pakerized coating.

              I have a Government XSE and a few SAs (TRP and Trophy Matches). They are both excellent production pistols. I think you will be pleased with either...get both.
              CH3NO2

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              • #37
                RealBarber
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 748

                Originally posted by yankee-pete
                If you want a gun that is made in America, go TRP or Professional.
                TRPs and Professionals are made in Brazil too

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                • #38
                  redcliff
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5676

                  Originally posted by RealBarber
                  TRPs and Professionals are made in Brazil too
                  Sigh...

                  Any of the Springfield custom shop guns ARE NOT MADE IN BRAZIL. The friggin US Government says so. The fact that they use Imbel forgings does not mean the finished gun is made in Brazil; more than half of the machining is done in the US. Do you know where the steel used in your Ford or Chevy was made?

                  If they were made in Brazil they would have to be stamped "made in Brazil" ; they aren't.
                  "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                  "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                  "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                  "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                  although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                  • #39
                    stormvet
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 12681

                    Originally posted by yankee-pete
                    This is just it. The reason people sometimes choose Colt over Springfield. Colts are the original and nice to look at and are good guns, however, Springfield is higher quality. If you want a gun that is made in America, go TRP or Professional.
                    What am I missing with my TRP. It seems alot of calguns places it on a pedestal, don't get me wrong it's a nice production 1911 that does what it's designed to do. But really it's just a fancy loaded with aggressive front strap checking and the word tactical put on it. It is pretty much the exact same gun as my MC OP minus the obvious. I think because it's on the list and so many Californians have it, it's reputation has far exceted reality. I find it amusing when it's mentioned along side the PRO as if they are close to being equal.
                    Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                    • #40
                      Press Check
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 4879

                      Originally posted by RealBarber
                      TRPs and Professionals are made in Brazil too
                      All due respect, you've no idea what you're talking about.

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                      • #41
                        IPSICK
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 4259

                        Originally posted by Press Check
                        All due respect, you've no idea what you're talking about.
                        Not sure about the pro frames but I thought the TRP raw forgings came from Brazil.
                        "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

                        "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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                        • #42
                          Press Check
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 4879

                          Originally posted by IPSICK
                          Not sure about the pro frames but I thought the TRP raw forgings came from Brazil.
                          Professional frames are raw, oversized forgings from IMBEL as well.

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                          • #43
                            RealBarber
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 748

                            Originally posted by redcliff
                            Sigh...

                            Any of the Springfield custom shop guns ARE NOT MADE IN BRAZIL. The friggin US Government says so. The fact that they use Imbel forgings does not mean the finished gun is made in Brazil; more than half of the machining is done in the US. Do you know where the steel used in your Ford or Chevy was made?

                            If they were made in Brazil they would have to be stamped "made in Brazil" ; they aren't.
                            Sigh....so now you believe everything the government says?

                            Springfield imports every single product they sell, their Brazilian 1911s , their Croation XDs, and their Korean M1As

                            You can dance around technicalities all you want...sigh

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                            • #44
                              RealBarber
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 748

                              Originally posted by Press Check
                              Professional frames are raw, oversized forgings from IMBEL as well.
                              ...from IMBEL

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                              • #45
                                Press Check
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 4879

                                Sigh....so now you believe everything the government says?
                                If I were you, I'd add another layer of tinfoil to your hat.

                                Springfield imports every single product they sell, their Brazilian 1911s
                                Somehow, I was under the impression that all the final machining, hand-fitment and assembly on my Professional was completed at their Custom Shop in Illinois, but why would I believe them when I have you? Apparently, it was all done in Brazil. I must say, that was a clever and deceiving ruse on the part of Springfield.

                                You can dance around technicalities all you want...sigh
                                Yep, the same narrow-minded rhetoric you post each time a question about Springfield surfaces.

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