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  • #31
    DRAB_81
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 2482

    This happened to me once, caused by an out of spec reload & a tight chamber. The Glock will not fire that far out of battery. I put a wooden dowel in the barrel and put some masking tape on it so it wouldn't fall out. Then I put the end of the dowel on my workbench (gun pointed straight down), lifted slightly & slammed the dowel into the table (using the grip of the gun to push). The dowel pushed on the bullet, which forced the slide rearward and ejected the round. I tried EVERYTHING before doing this, it was my last resort. It probably wasn't the safest thing I've ever done, but I felt like it was a calculated risk.


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    Last edited by DRAB_81; 06-28-2013, 10:22 PM.

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    • #32
      CK_32
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Sep 2010
      • 14369

      Man all you guys are scaring me from getting my 23 and running the 23 to 19 conversion.

      I've been told they are THAT reliable but I didn't know it with this common
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      • #33
        Turbinator
        Administrator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 11935

        Originally posted by DRAB_81
        This happened to me once, caused by an out of spec reload & a tight chamber. The Glock will not fire that far out of battery. I put a wooden dowel in the barrel and put some masking tape on it so it wouldn't fall out. Then I put the end of the dowel on my workbench (gun pointed straight down), lifted slightly & slammed the dowel into the table. The dowel pushed on the bullet, which forced the slide rearward and ejected the round. I tried EVERYTHING before doing this, it was my last resort. It probably wasn't the safest thing I've ever done, but I felt like it was a calculated risk.
        Be careful about this, for this reason - if you put something down the barrel to force out the offending round, the wooden dowel or rod you're using COULD push the bullet deeper into the case - which would expand the case - which would in effect, wedge the case in the chamber even tighter.

        Someone suggested tapping the slide closed then trying to discharge the gun at the range in a safe direction. I agree, that might work.

        If not, you might need to try this alternate method - place a front edge of the slide against something wooden and solid - maybe a 2x4 - grasping the grip, fingers nowhere near the trigger, push forward such that you are trying to rack the slide with the help of the piece of wood. If done correctly, you can use your body weight to help add force to force an extraction. At the worst, you'll break your extractor, but those can be easily replaced.

        I agree with the others here, sounds like an out of spec reload that didn't chamber nicely. If these are your own personal reloads, you might want to invest in some case gauges.

        Let us know how you get on.

        Turby

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        • #34
          G21Shooter
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 3577

          Lesson to be learned here, don't use aftermarket **** in your Glock.

          If you want a Glock 19, buy one.

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          • #35
            Raider888
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 891

            Good luck OP.
            Your headline should be "Problem with reloads".

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            • #36
              Mojave Desert
              Member
              • May 2011
              • 309

              Two Handed Slide Squeeze

              A good trick to know when you encounter a truly jammed up gun like the one the OP had is the "two handed slide squeeze" technique. I was taught this when I worked for an indoor range that rented guns and sold reloaded ammo. Every once in a while, a case not fully sized will jam a pistol not quite in battery. Traditional operation on the slide such as the overhand or slingshot methods will not have enough force to move the stuck case out of the chamber. To explain further:

              1) The gun is still loaded, so be careful. Keep pointed downrange, keep hands and fingers away from muzzle.
              2) Grip pistol in the usual method, no pointing finger in trigger guard.
              3) With the offside thumb, place in triggerguard(carefully) from the offside side of the pistol, the other four fingers of the offside hand go above the slide (watch out for the muzzle, remember?).
              4) With the primary side fingers, place above slide.
              5) Simultaniously push forward with the thumbs and back with the other fingers in a "squeeze" motion.

              This method gives great leverage for a short distance, just enough to dislodge the stuck case. Try this with an empty pistol, especially for the instructors out there since you may encounter this often. It will save lots of cussing and banging of pistols, and also makes you look like you have superhuman powers by using two handed leverage over one handed brute strength.

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              • #37
                NationsMostWanted
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 972

                Originally posted by Raider888
                Good luck OP.
                Your headline should be "Problem with reloads".
                Is it a slide issue or ammo?
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                • #38
                  mievil
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1788

                  Originally posted by G21Shooter
                  Lesson to be learned here, don't use aftermarket **** in your Glock.

                  If you want a Glock 19, buy one.
                  Or buy a different caliber, spend $120 on a barrel, and a new mag, and have two guns in one.

                  The very first time it happened was with range reloads and it was a .40 bullet shoved into a .357 piece of brass and the bullet was shoved down far enough in the brass that it was super swollen. But yeah, you're right. I guess that points towards my barrel....

                  Wait....what was the lesson learned here? Oh yeah....sometimes you get some bad reloads.

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                  • #39
                    stormvet
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 12681

                    Why do people freak when someone says they have a problem with their Glock. Can't be the Glock!

                    I've had this happen a couple times, both times with a stock Glock barrel also once with a CZ. It just takes muscle, it's not gonna fire, way too far out of battery. On each occasion when I finally muscled the slide loose the bullet separated from the casing dumping powder all over the inside of my gun. Then used a metal cleaning rod to push the bullet out. Dose not take much force as the bullet is only partially engaging the rifling.
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                    • #40
                      Bodh1
                      Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 436

                      Originally posted by CK_32
                      Man all you guys are scaring me from getting my 23 and running the 23 to 19 conversion.

                      I've been told they are THAT reliable but I didn't know it with this common
                      It's because of the reloads he was using. The same thing happened to me on my glock 19 lonewolf barrel i use for lead rounds.

                      Holding the slide with the left hand and slamming your web of your right hand into the backstrap ONLY works if he didn't slam the slide home after he noticed the round wasn't seating properly.

                      The lonewolf barrel is tight, no doubt the glock barrel would have sat the round properly in the chamber and it would have fired.

                      He's going to have get the slide back, and from there, while the slide is back, use the screw driver and tap the round back towards the chamber. I've seen this done at my range quite a few times. If you aren't comfortable doing it, then don't try it.

                      Good luck.

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                      • #41
                        SJgunguy24
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2008
                        • 14849

                        What you need to do is get the plate off the back of the slide. Once you do that the striker/spring assembly, and plunger spring will fall out. That way you can safely do whatever you need to do to get that round out of there. With that striker out, there is no risk of an ND. Untill you get that out messing with the trigger and trying to cycle the action is asking for trouble.
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                        The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                        The others, well......they just never learn.

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                        • #42
                          Dee_Dub
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2097

                          bummer op
                          A man's GOT to know his limitations.

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                          • #43
                            DRAB_81
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 2482

                            Originally posted by SJgunguy24
                            What you need to do is get the plate off the back of the slide. Once you do that the striker/spring assembly, and plunger spring will fall out. That way you can safely do whatever you need to do to get that round out of there. With that striker out, there is no risk of an ND. Untill you get that out messing with the trigger and trying to cycle the action is asking for trouble.
                            True, but he'd have to separate the slide from the frame in order to do it, and that's not easy to do with an out of spec round that's stuck 3/4 of the way into a super tight chamber. Not to mention it's a 9mm case being pulled by a .40 S&W extractor.

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                            • #44
                              Bad Caselaw
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 808

                              Physics time:

                              1. Find a sturdy post (or wall corner)
                              2. Stand next to it holding the pistol.
                              3. Place your right tricep (back of upper arm) and elbow along the face of the post vertically.
                              4. Raise the pistol 90 deg. to level, with your index finger along the frame and Out of the Trigger Area.
                              5. Grasp the slide over the top at the serrations, behind the port, with your thumb pointing back.
                              6. Extend the pistol directly forward as grasped, until your upper right arm is 45-60 deg. from the vertical.
                              7. Elbow-stroke the post - Hard, while pushing back with the left hand on the slide.
                              8. Repeat if necessary.

                              Everything is moving backward, sudden impulse, plus the pressure on the slide - the ejected round (or your extractor claw) should end up in the parking lot.

                              Good luck!




                              Caselaw
                              Last edited by Bad Caselaw; 06-29-2013, 10:20 AM.
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                              • #45
                                USM0083
                                Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 332

                                Is there a gap behind the barrel hood/lug and the slide (ejection port cut) that you can get a flat head screwdriver into?

                                Wrap the tip in electrical tape and wedge the sucker open (carefully).

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