Found a P7M8!

[pogo]

GUN IS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING DROSed! NOW THE 10 DAYS OF HELL.

Well after all of your posts on the fence and then finally deciding to get it, the anticipation is catching. I almost feel like I'M PICKING IT UP in 7 days, post some pics of my new gun for me when you get it.

[duenor]

I don't mind heel releases, and a lighter gun is just fine by me.
Hm. Let me talk to some international importers... I think I just might pay $350 for a nice HK P7PSP.

[Voo]

Im not a P7 expert.. you'll want to head over to the Cult of the P7 or HKPRO for a more definitive answer..

As I indicated previously, the plumming color comes from the heat treating of the metal, not because it was produced for the West German Police. Im not a refinisher, but it apparently has something to do with how certain alloys/metals take the bluing process when they're heat treated for strength.. Feel free to google this.. you'll see it has nothign to do with germans being issued "purple" guns The part Im not so sure about is whether the bluing initially covers most of it, but when it wears, the result you experience is that 'purplish' hue. Search the forums i listed above and you should find plenty of information regarding this. I personally dislike the color, but even my p7 has a tiny plum hue to it.. I imagine as the wear increases, you'll be able to see more purple.

In regards to the piston.. as soon as you take the slide off the lower, you'll see it right away. It's where you would normally find a "recoil rod" if the P7 were to have one. The idea is that if the gun has been fired a lot, the hot gases from the resulting explosion will tend to "round" or smooth out the piston ridges. If these ridges are still sharp and clean, your P7 has likely not been fired much.. This is not an exact method for determining round count, but it's a good place to look. Like I said, it's not exact science, but i've read that it's a good indicator that if it's worn, it was either cleaned badly or shot quite a bit.

I would avoid using anything harsh to clean the gun, no contact/brake cleaner, or other solvents.. I strictly use CLP(breakfree or Weaponshield) on the slide and gun. For cleaning, I would remove the gas piston roll pin with a punch and soak the entire piston overnight in Slip2000 carb cleaner, before hitting it with qtips, dental pick, and a brush.

As far as I know, i thought the German Police were issued P7 PSP's. The ones we have in america are P7m8 with the thumb release, not the euro/heel release. Im totally guessing as I dont know if this is the case. Just that all the P7PSP's ive seen/heard that were being recently being sold were PSPs from german police trade in's. Please correct me if im wrong.

btw, congrats on the DROS!!!! now go get some magazines (if you're not too broke) and post pics when it arrives..!!

[Waingro]

In regards to the piston.. as soon as you take the slide off the lower, you'll see it right away. It's where you would normally find a "recoil rod" if the P7 were to have one. The idea is that if the gun has been fired a lot, the hot gases from the resulting explosion will tend to "round" or smooth out the piston ridges. If these ridges are still sharp and clean, your P7 has likely not been fired much.. This is not an exact method for determining round count, but it's a good place to look. Like I said, it's not exact science, but i've read that it's a good indicator that if it's worn, it was either cleaned badly or shot quite a bit.

I would avoid using anything harsh to clean the gun, no contact/brake cleaner, or other solvents.. I strictly use CLP(breakfree or Weaponshield) on the slide and gun. For cleaning, I would remove the gas piston roll pin with a punch and soak the entire piston overnight in Slip2000 carb cleaner, before hitting it with qtips, dental pick, and a brush.

btw, congrats on the DROS!!!! now go get some magazines (if you're not too broke) and post pics when it arrives..!!

Darnit! Now I have to go down to Riverside again to check the piston just to make sure. I am so nervous. The guys at the shop are going to think I am an idiot.

And I think I am a little too broke right now to buy an extra mag, I already have my G19 for SD/HD and a pump shotgun for HD.

[duenor]

doh.
turns out the P7PSPs were already imported, and the supply ran out in 2006. Last they were being sold for $900 by CDNN. Beats me as to why the later-issued P7 would be sold to importers before the earlier-issued SIG P6, but go figure.

[tonelar]

I heard the p6 was way more entrenched (issued in greater numbers) with the national german pd. So gathering them all up just took longer.
The p7 was earmarked for specific departments, special agents and more elite teams. So when it came time to re issue, they had them all back quicker.

[aplinker]

Unless you're talking new, the CDNN P7PSPs are 600

doh.
turns out the P7PSPs were already imported, and the supply ran out in 2006. Last they were being sold for $900 by CDNN. Beats me as to why the later-issued P7 would be sold to importers before the earlier-issued SIG P6, but go figure.

[krim]

I don't mind heel releases, and a lighter gun is just fine by me.
Hm. Let me talk to some international importers... I think I just might pay $350 for a nice HK P7PSP.

5 mags thru my friends PSP and it's uncomfortably hot to hold. I dont mind the extra bulk for heat issues.