Not impress with Glock 19 gen 4

[ClarenceBoddicker]

I cannot conceive why anyone would want to buy the later Glocks like the gen 4s. The early gen 3s are just about perfect IMO. Is it because they want the newest version or because that's what some LEOs use? If a brand new gun should have zero failures. When I bought both of my Glocks, I used a bunch of different ammo in rapid fire to see it they would fail. No issues then or 10 years later.

[Shenaniguns]

I love my Gen 4 G19 more so than the 8 other Glocks I've owned. Compared to my Gen 3 and Gen 2 Glocks
GEN 4 Pros to me:
Ergonomics, I prefer no backstrap.
Precision, I've shot a 2.5" group standing unsupported with HST 124 grain +p which beat what I accomplished with my old G34.

Cons:
Erratic extraction
Brass to the face about 10% of the time with UMC and some other weak ammo.

Resolution : I was fortunate to be Apex Tactical Specialties beta tester for the Glock Extractor and it eliminated all brass to the face and reduced erratic ejection to an occasional case over my head.
The trigger is pretty heavy out of the box, even with the dot/. connector and a polish job helped me a ton.

I've been thru many handgun platforms including a near custom 1911 and very customized M&P's, Sig, USP and I keep coming back to Glocks. They are far from perfection, but a good one will serve you well on duty, competition or carry.

[DCF]

Shenaniguns: do you have the 336 ejector or the 30274 ejector? The trigger was pretty heavy and the break was bad at first. I did the polish job and it reduced the weight of the trigger and the break feels a little better. Too bad the brass to the face issue is very annoying and a little dangerous. I am hoping Glock would fix it for free so I don't have to buy a $60 part just to fix the problem.

[johnny_boy02]

I cannot conceive why anyone would want to buy the later Glocks like the gen 4s.

For me it it's the grip texture. The grip feels much better on the Gen 4's. But if I ever find a good deal on a RTF G17 I will be all over it.

[Shenaniguns]

Shenaniguns: do you have the 336 ejector or the 30274 ejector? The trigger was pretty heavy and the break was bad at first. I did the polish job and it reduced the weight of the trigger and the break feels a little better. Too bad the brass to the face issue is very annoying and a little dangerous. I am hoping Glock would fix it for free so I don't have to buy a $60 part just to fix the problem.

I have the 30274 ejector. The $60 for the extractor is small potatoes IMO for the overall scheme of things, that same money is spent by me on one short range trip. And I usually spend about $90 on holsters, $100 on sights, etc...

[becxltoo984]

Let me know if you want to sell that defective G 19 real cheap ...

[Freq18Hz]

DCF: How do you know how many rounds the gun has had through it? What ammo where you shooting?

The thing that is ridiculous about Glocks and the Glock community is the belief that they are somehow immune to the same issues inherent in any other recoil operated semi automatic pistol.

Depending on what loads you are shooting, and how old/worn/up to spec/ the recoil spring is, you will need to tune the extractor, ejector etc.

Just have Glock send you a new spring and the latest gen 4 parts and be done with it. Try shooting some buffalo bore or similar hot 9mm and see if it ejects the same.

-Freq

[hyeg35]

[Capybara]

I have yet to buy my first Glock, but when I do, a rash of these Gen 4 posts are making me thing that a Gen 3 would be a better choice, have not heard anything positive about the Gen 4s all over the web.

[Shenaniguns]

I have yet to buy my first Glock, but when I do, a rash of these Gen 4 posts are making me thing that a Gen 3 would be a better choice, have not heard anything positive about the Gen 4s all over the web.

Then buy an older Pre-2010 Gen 3 as the Post-2010 Gen 3's share parts and some have the same problems.

[renardsubtil]

Man that sucks to hear...I picked up a Gen 3 G19 last year and I love it. Not a failure yet after 500 rounds but I do get the occasional brass in face issue. I replaced my extractor and it seemed to go away until just this past weekend when I changed up ammo (Blazer) - I like to try different ammo in it anyways because I want it to function no matter what, so I guess I'll stay away from Blazer stuff for now....

Also, compared to a 1911, the G19 is a different beast...I love my 1911 (Kimber custom 2) and for awhile I was shooting WAY better with it than my Glock but after a recent trigger connector upgrade on my Glock (3.5 connector), I can shoot both equally as good, er well as good as a weekend warrior can shoot anyways hah!

[Sam]

I have the 30274 ejector. The $60 for the extractor is small potatos IMO for the overall scheme of things, that same money is spent by me on one short range trip. And I usually spend about $90 on holsters, $100 on sights, etc...

I think that is an excellent way to look at it. If at the end of the day, is Glock the best platform for you? If yes, then $60 is a drop in the bucket compared to the total cost of the sport. It's frustrating to have to buy an aftermarket part and while Glock shouldn't be shipping their guns out this way, the end result of a Glock plus a $60 part still is an excellent choice.

[Shenaniguns]

I just noticed I misspelled potatoes

Pro-Tip to myself, don't make posts at 5:30 in the morning before I had my coffee kick in lol

[missiontrails]

Generally speaking, I'm not a big Glock fan at all...

I spent some time recently with a non California approved Glock 19 Gen 4 and I was very impressed. The trigger is much improved, and I found it to be a fine "combat" handgun. It seemed to me it would serve well as a duty piece.

That being said, my first FTF ever was with a Glock, and I'm not a big fan of any tupperware. Maybe someday I'll change my mind.

OP: Most of the issues you listed can happen with any manufacturer. Your FTF could have been ammo related, and brass being thrown in your face can also be due to your shooting style. Either way, they are both common issue with semi automatics. The spring just might need to be broken in more.

I laugh at anyone that says that because they had a FTF or two that their gun is not reliable. If you think your handgun isn't reliable, take a 500 dollar bill and fold it up a few times, and put it in front of your gun. Squeeze the trigger. Is your gun reliable?

-Freq

The trigger is much improved? It's the same 5.5lb trigger that's in the Gen 3... Someone chime in if I'm wrong.

[Shenaniguns]

The trigger is much improved? It's the same 5.5lb trigger that's in the Gen 3... Someone chime in if I'm wrong.

Incorrect, the Gen 4 trigger housing is angled 5-10 degrees differently than the Gen 3's which resulted in about a 1/2 pound heavier trigger. This is the reason that they came up with the "." (Dot) connector which is supposed to bring the trigger pull down that 1/2 pound and is in between the standard connector and minus connector weight wise.