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  • #16
    FUBAR
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 2453

    [FUBAR: I do have a 4-3-0 recoil spring. I also have a 336 ejector, so should I called the number for Glock?]
    Glock won't ship just the ejector to you unless your a Glock armorer. You can either ship your gun to Glock and they'll install the new ejector or have a certified Glock armorer order one and install it. Or midwayusa.com sells the new ejector for $7.99 and you can install it yourself.
    Last edited by FUBAR; 11-15-2012, 6:13 PM.

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    • #17
      DCF
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 1188

      Freq18Hz: I did not say the gun is not reliable because it stovepipe once. I am just stating what happened in the first mag. The biggest problem is brass to my face and hard to get a hold of Glock customer service.

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      • #18
        USMC 82-86
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 2428

        Originally posted by FUBAR
        Which president is on that one?
        William Mckinley.
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        • #19
          USMC 82-86
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 2428

          I have the Gen 3 G19 with the 336 part number and it is good to go.
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          • #20
            s2gots
            Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 328

            If your having trouble contacting glock because Of the time difference, you can always set your alarm and wake up an hour earlier!!

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            • #21
              INFAMOUS762X39
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1458

              Originally posted by USMC 82-86
              I have the Gen 3 G19 with the 336 part number and it is good to go.
              Interesting. What # Extractor are you running?

              I have the same model, it is not good to go.

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              • #22
                tbc
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2011
                • 5955

                It's a hit and miss thing. There is no other formular for this BTF issue. The one that works effectively (not perfectly) on the erratic ejection Glocks is Apex extractor.

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                • #23
                  DCF
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1188

                  I am not spending $60 for an extractor that is suppose to work from the get go.

                  The one from Midway is out of stock, but I will try to contact Glock during their business hour before I order anything.

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                  • #24
                    tbc
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 5955

                    Many folks from Glocktawk forum have the same issue and here is the best summary from a member INEEDMILK.

                    "Glock can't analyze the issue because it has SO many variables, the biggest of which is that these ****ball extractors they are producing don't lose their spec for 1000+ rounds.

                    So customer X gets his new Gen4 Glock and comes on GlockTalk and says "you idiots are crazy my new Gen4 is fine" and then on the 1,001th round it starts flinging brass at his retina. Then he bumps his old **** thread and says "yea sorry my gun is ejecting badly now", but it is irrelevant because the thread has already devolved into some "youre a weak wristed *****" versus "I've had 14 Glocks and this is the only one that gives me problems".

                    Then the customer pays their hard earned money to send their Glock back to Georgia to be inspected by Glock technicians. The technicians put his Glock in the giant pile of other Glocks on warranty repair backorder. When it is finally his Glocks time to get inspected, the techs load up two magazines of Blazer brass and fire them downrange. If it throws brass erratically, they just swap out the ejector and extractor and call it a day.
                    He gets it back 6 weeks later with a note that says "inspected", and then takes it to the range the next weekend only to find that it has the same problem, if not worse.

                    He gets upset that he paid $50 to ship his Glock back to the factory only to have it return with the same problem after it has been "inspected". He calls Glock up the next day and asks what should be done, and the person answering the phone instructs him to send it in again. He says "why should I send it in?? I just sent it in and you guys didn't fix the problem and now I'm out of money. I feel like you should be paying for the shipping back and forth to the factory", but the person on the phone has been instructed by their boss not to give out any more free RMAs. But the guy gets upset when he is told "no more RMAs" because his co-workers friends cousins neighbor, Ralph, got his Glock RMAed no problem. He calls Glock back 6 more times over the next week in hopes of getting a "generous" CS rep, but, alas he has no luck.

                    He gets upset but realizes the damage is done. He takes it to the range a few times over the next year but knows in his heart that he can honestly never recommend a Glock to any one of his friends ever again.

                    Then he finds out that this company called APEX is making a tiny piece of metal called an extractor that supposedly fixes the problem in his brand new Glock. He finally sees that they are in stock (after hearing about them for months) and notices that APEX is charging an absurd ****ing $60!~!!!!!! FOR A PIECE OF METAL 1 INCH IN DIAMETER!!! "Why should I have to pay for this?" he thinks to himself. "Glock should be paying for this."

                    He finally saves up $60 and waits 3 more weeks and gets his APEX extractor in the mail. He pops it in and, finally, the next weekend is he able to go shooting again. All of his casings are ejected strongly to the 4 o'clock, just like his Gen3 RTF2 made in 2009.

                    He thinks to himself, "Ah, Glock perfection.""

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                    • #25
                      cbcbass
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 3

                      I have a Glock 22 gen4 and I love it. I was apprehensive at first but after several boxes of ammo, I wouldn't part with it. Different ammo, different model.

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                      • #26
                        johnny_boy02
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1480

                        If you decide to sell it let me know.

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                        • #27
                          DCF
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1188

                          Lol, nice story tbc.

                          I am not selling it for now. I cannot sell a defective product

                          I will try calling Glock again tomorrow and see if they can fix it. If not then I will get a a Glock hat with a brass catcher on top.

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                          • #28
                            far from tactical
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 1381

                            Should have gotton the 3rd gen havent had any problems with it I have shot the g17 4th gen and didn't like it out of a 10rd mag got hit in the face like 4 times .. so I'm happy with my gen 3

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                            • #29
                              SB1964
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 4876

                              I think I read this correctly...You bought a USED Glock. You`ve been told it only has a "few hundred" rounds thru it...I GET THAT.

                              My fairly new Gen 3 .40 (sept 2012) shoots Brass all over the place, including vertically, honestly! I think it`s funny. I`ve put at least 3 different HP`s, Flat Nose, Ball etc, approx 650 rds, I went today...Bottom line, I Trust it & it & know ALL Guns will fail eventually.

                              You`ve asked & gotten answers...NOT recommending you send it to GLOCK so you can HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WHEN YOU GET IT BACK. I`ve been on CG for a week & have read Glock Threads about what`s gonna happen if you SEND IT BACK!!!

                              Buy an Extractor & Spring, they`re better parts than mass produced stock!!!

                              Also don`t get too caught up in Online "ejection patterns" they can & DO Vary!!!
                              Yes I took the pic, no I didn't go swimming!

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                              • #30
                                DCF
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 1188

                                I feel that Glock should make it right. May be it's just me but spending $60 on the extractor just to make it not throw brass at my face is not right. I don't care if it throw brass from 7 o'clock to 5 o'clock, as long at it doesn't throw brass at 6 o'clock then I call it good.

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