Sig p226 MK25 Navy Seals: First Impression!

[Eddy's Shooting Sports]

Sorry, I have to chime in one last time.

I don't feel bashed at all. My point, as was reiterated by others, is that the problem, in my opinion, has been blown way out of proportion. The acceptable outcome would be a new spring in the mail and see how it goes.

Others disagree.

I'm far too thick skinned to ever feel bashed in a forum. That's why I come back. Calguns is ROUGH compared to many other forums.

Cheers!


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[Super Spy]

The OP's exact gun was the first one I checked the price on when a friend offered me a screaming deal on a new Sig. The other 2 I was looking at are the Scorpion (love the way that looks) and the TACOPS. I have family out of state so I don't care about the list, that gun will be a gift from my Mom. I was a little on the fence, get this great deal or go with a CZ like I've been thinking about for a while now. The scales have now shifted noticeably back to the CZ. Sig may take care of this, but for that much money and the rep Sig has they shouldn't NEED to take care of it. Are those springs made at the Tata factory in India? It's really hard to find quality anything anymore. Apparently some of the German factory workers have the same DGF attitude that plagues many US factories.

[Moto4Fun]

I think it is very laughable and hugely ironic that you bought a "Navy" edition of a gun and it came with a rusted spring. Personally, I would have been so amused by this irony that I wouldn't be upset with Sig or their customer service. Clearly this is a matter of one component that was manufactured incorrectly. I wouldn't have been in a huge hurry to rectify the situation, nor would I have held the fire to Sig's feet. It is one bad part that can be easily replaced.

Clearly, Sig has a higher customer service demand than they have supply based on the phone wait times that was indicated by the OP. But that is possible in all manufacturers in all industries. Comparing it to cars and motorcycles is not relevant.

[gorenut]

I think it is very laughable and hugely ironic that you bought a "Navy" edition of a gun and it came with a rusted spring. Personally, I would have been so amused by this irony that I wouldn't be upset with Sig or their customer service. Clearly this is a matter of one component that was manufactured incorrectly. I wouldn't have been in a huge hurry to rectify the situation, nor would I have held the fire to Sig's feet. It is one bad part that can be easily replaced.

Clearly, Sig has a higher customer service demand than they have supply based on the phone wait times that was indicated by the OP. But that is possible in all manufacturers in all industries. Comparing it to cars and motorcycles is not relevant.

Hahha, but that irony would have costed you a grand if you were the OP. I get what you're saying though and I definitely got that vibe when I first opened this thread.

[corcoraj2002]

That is very true and I understand you analogy, BUT what would you do if your bikes kept breaking down or stalling after a lap or two? And the maker just said it needs to be driven more before it becomes reliable? Thats the analogy that Im thinking of. And what if somebody had a safe queen and one day in their lives they needed to actually protect themselves from a threat and they pull it out of the safe after 10years and It jams after a few rounds. That wouldnt be cool. Anyhow, I understand what you saying.

I've owned ducatai's so used to them breaking down and being in the shop a lot. My point was more to the fact that some people ask is a gun unfired, if it is factory fired. So image what these owners would think if they found out the weapon was already broken in.

[corcoraj2002]

Clearly, Sig has a higher customer service demand than they have supply based on the phone wait times that was indicated by the OP. But that is possible in all manufacturers in all industries. Comparing it to cars and motorcycles is not relevant.

My reference to motorcycles had nothing to do with CS or wait times. It was more to do with break in periods and customers views of what it acceptable with "new" purchases.

[Moto4Fun]

My reference to motorcycles had nothing to do with CS or wait times. It was more to do with break in periods and customers views of what it acceptable with "new" purchases.

I know. Someone else had said, imagine if you bought a new car...

My point is that the CS for vehicles is very different than that of small manufactured goods. As far as break in is concerned, well, thats a whole different topic.

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[fullspeed1]

True dat--Navy Seals are the most bad *** herd of cattle I know of

Can we move on now the glock fanboys have spoke, Sig made it right (as if there was any doudt), and if anyone really thinks Sigs are junk DON'T buy one. There are enough of us who know otherwise. If you own one and don't want it, PM me if the deal is there I'll buy it, you can never have enough real metal guns, Kaboom!

MR Magoo, The "cattle" is in reference to the people sucked right into buying a particular product, Because the "SEALS" use it. No need for the panty binding. Can't recall the last time I ever saw rusted internals on a Glock fresh out of the box. I personally enjoy shooting Sigs, But can't stand the HERO syndrome.

[Moto4Fun]

Can't recall the last time I ever saw rusted internals on a Glock fresh out of the box. I personally enjoy shooting Sigs, But can't stand the HERO syndrome.

Can you recall the last time you saw a rusted spring come out of any gun? I am not excusing Sig in any way, but this a very rare and very odd defect. It has been explained earlier in the thread and it could have happened to anyone on any gun. It should be noted that if the op had not removed the grip and found it, the gun would have worked well for years and he would have been a satisfied customer.

[Sturnovik]

Can you recall the last time you saw a rusted spring come out of any gun? I am not excusing Sig in any way, but this a very rare and very odd defect. It has been explained earlier in the thread and it could have happened to anyone on any gun. It should be noted that if the op had not removed the grip and found it, the gun would have worked well for years and he would have been a satisfied customer.

+1. I recommend Sig alot and even I said this was unacceptable, and they made it right. Pictures probably helped him which is good.

That said, I doubt anyone in the factory had the audacity to randomly put a rusted spring in the gun. I don't know what coatings they use or what other things may have contributed to this but who knows. They made it right.

[fullspeed1]

Can you recall the last time you saw a rusted spring come out of any gun? I am not excusing Sig in any way, but this a very rare and very odd defect. It has been explained earlier in the thread and it could have happened to anyone on any gun. It should be noted that if the op had not removed the grip and found it, the gun would have worked well for years and he would have been a satisfied customer.

Can't say that I have...

[MyGlock17]

I'll trade you my HK USP .40 Full size for your Sig ...Runs flawless, 2500 rounds with no failure so far...No rust either ...I live in the Bay area if your interested...

[Lu(ky]

Will do...

Interesting to note: According to Sig CS, none of the springs (including the Mainspring) in the MK25 are coated with the 'special phosphorus coating',
so apparently Sig does not consider them an 'internal component' as in the marketing blurb.
In my note inside the case I asked the Custom Shop to clarify exactly what components are indeed coated...

"The new P226 MK25 is identical to the pistol carried by the U.S. Navy SEALs-the fleet’s special warfare operators.
It comes complete with a phosphate finish applied to all internal components, “providing corrosion resistance
in even the harshest of saltwater environments.”

NIKI#2 have you had a chance to look at your MAGAZINES yet? Take them apart and look at the inside springs yet?

On another note you would think this main spring area to be coated as well as the magazines. I also noticed they only sell them in a 40/.357 12 RD Phosphate (flush fit) only? -----> H E R E
Not sure why they do not offer in 9mm or 45acp?

[JUm3]

related question: is the back main spring suppose to be lubed or greased?

[hyperion.excal]

related question: is the back main spring suppose to be lubed or greased?

Does anybody know

i put 1 drop of oil everytime i clean mine