Cable lock scam

[patrickstarfish]

I just got rid of a bunch of locks. I could have saved money if I had known that I could type up a dated and signed receipt from a friend whom you bought a lock from. Worked with FFLs that I go to.

[halifax]

For some reason I thought your refereeing the Springfield 1911.
Lots of gun manufacturers have a ILS the is DOJ approved. Beretta is another example.

These are the only I.L.S. systems I can find on the Department of Justice Approved Firearm Safety Devices:

Factory installed on all Springfield Armory 1911 pistols which feature the I.L.S. (Integrated Locking System). The I.L.S. is
certified for use when installed on all of the following 1911 models except the CRG Model 1911 and the Ultra Compact High
Capacity 1911: Colt, Auto Ordnance, Charles Daly, Para Ordnance, Rock River Armory, Kimber, Les Baer, Wilson, Llama, STI
International, SV Strayer Voigt, U.S.G.I., Argentin Manufacturer, Caspian Arms, Valtro, Ed Brown.

All Beretta model 8000, 8040, 8045 and 8357 semiautomatic pistols equipped with the B-Lok.

All Beretta model 92, 96 and 98 semiautomatic pistols equipped with the B-Lok.

Sig Arms P229-40 Integral

S&W Revolver Keylock system being conspicuously absent. No revolvers at all.

[1nickatnite1]

there's shops where all you have to do is sign an affidavit that says you have a CA approved safe and you don't need to get the cable lock.

[Librarian]

there's shops where all you have to do is sign an affidavit that says you have a CA approved safe and you don't need to get the cable lock.

Yes, there are - and they're setting themselves up for problems with the BATF, because BATF has failed to do its job.

Again, see the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Bu...es.2C_and_Laws

[halifax]

FEDERAL LAW: Youth Handgun Safety Act

18 U.S.C. 922(z),Secure Gun Storage or Safety Device.—
(1) In general.— Except as provided under paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to sell, deliver, or transfer any handgun to any person other than any person licensed under this chapter, unless the transferee is provided with a secure gun storage or safety device (as defined in section 921 (a)(34)) for that handgun.

[socalbowhunter]

I don't understand why you aren't just signing a safe affidavit? Do you seriously not have a safe?

[ke6guj]

I don't understand why you aren't just signing a safe affidavit? Do you seriously not have a safe?

because, as mentioned before, there is both a CA and a federal handgun lock law. the safe affidavit deals with CA law, but does not satisfy federal handgun lock requirements tht the buyer be provided with a lock. Swearing that you have a safe is not enough for the federal law.

[chadillac33]

I just did a PPT and the gun I bought had its original lock and they said that was fine. Also they didn't care if I locked it or not. They said I have to lock it before I leave the parking lot. So I hop in my jeep, and since I'm a law abiding citizen I pull out the lock and there's no keys!!! Go figure. I guess this FFL just don't care.

[keenkeen]

I don't understand why you aren't just signing a safe affidavit? Do you seriously not have a safe?

Because the safe affidavit is not valid for handgun purchases...

[sd_fox_racer]

i just bought Beretta px4 and we went to do the transfer the lady asked and saw it came with the factory cable lock wrote it down and that was it didn't ask me to buy a lock.

[jeffrice6]

Lgs gets a free lock & charges $5-15 to let you walk out. Nothing more than putting the screw to the customer.

[PRCABR4Christ]

get a safe...done deal

[zfields]

Lgs gets a free lock & charges $5-15 to let you walk out. Nothing more than putting the screw to the customer.

You need to find a new FFL.

Last used gun I bought in CA, FFL ( who has posted in this thread ), gladly gave me a lock and sent me on my way.

Vote with your dollar people.

[Librarian]

get a safe...done deal

It seems you have not read the whole thread.

While a safe is fine for California for either long guns or hand guns, BATF intransigence and incompetence has disallowed a safe to satisfy Federal law for hand guns.

[ryan0320]

Guys~~~ Buying cable locks for $6 is fine by me.
Sometimes, I bring the sealed and unopen cable lock to the seller. Ask them to put it with the gun and we have no problem on the cable lock.

The worst one is that the Gun shop were selling cable lock for $19.99 (Same thing as the one for $5.99). That's the one really pisses me off.
The Gun world in Burbank does that to me last time.
I decided that never go back there.