beware of target masters

[hkfooey]

I don't miss those days at all, The way he screwed over the "charter life member's" of TM/ Milpitas.

Was it that bad before?? At least the employees at that time were much nice (talking during 2000-2003). Too bad, too bad...

[kantstudien]

Reminds me of why I almost always disassemble any firearms I'm transferring and just leave the receiver at the shop. Here's the receiver- enjoy

Hmmm...good idea, but how would you get around the safe handling demo with just a frame?

Maybe do the safe handling first, and then strip it down when you leave for 10 days?

[Sgt Raven]

Was it that bad before?? At least the employees at that time were much nice (talking during 2000-2003). Too bad, too bad...

I'm talking about the early '80s time period. By '86 they were going down hill fast.

[BigMac]

and the manager/owner was also a real piece of work - she thought she was a real "Rambess".

If you met the new guy youd whish she was back... and she competed in IPSC or something.

[.45ACP]

This doesn't surprise me at all. I don't go to target masters very often, but everytime I do, I feel a bit uneasy. I feel uneasy because the staff doesn't seem very professional and the cliental that TM's brings are a bit on the shady side. The only place where I give my money to is Reed's indoor range and Reed's sport shop. I prefer going to Reed's indoor range because the manager and staff are extremely knoledgable and friendly. I honestly believe they're the epitome of customer service. Every single guy there is hand picked carefully and it shows the way the business is run. I haven't been to every single range in California, but I haven't found one better than Reed's.

[Sniper46]

I'd be calling the DOJ to report this. It is a serious breach of applicable laws.

[sned45]

I would never DROS a gun at TM's. I have seen employess play with newly DROSed firearms after the customer has left

[slocum]

A lot of ranges have the 3 second rule. I personally don't get it.

I didn't get it either - so I asked. The answer was enlightening. When you shoot fast you have to have better control than if you shoot slow. Muzzle rise will end up in the ceiling if it isn't controlled.

Now, that may not be you but it might be the person in the next lane over whom YOU goad into shooting faster than they can handle by firing rapidly yourself. Try it sometime. Start shooting fast and listen to what happens around you.

Can't do that? Take a look at the roof ahead and above you in your lane next time you shoot. There shouldn't be holes there, should there? Strangely, there almost always are!

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[D.T. Rouland]

As a range, Targetmasters is a place that I'll only go to if it's too late to head out to Reed's. As far as purchases, transfers, etc? I have no idea why you'd bother going there when Irvington Arms is less then 10 minutes away. You walk into TM and you really get the feeling it's just rickety...

[socalguns]

Thats a weak argument.
Shooting is a skill, and if you can't practice, you can't get better.
The outside range I go to allows rapid fire on the plinking range.
Its supposed to be restricted to 22LR, but its not enforced.
I'm more bothered by the guy slow firing 44mag to my left than the guy rapid firing 308 to my right.

[Jon]

Heh, funny how that little psychological ploy can be 'irksome'. Granted, when I'm shooting, I'm unfazed, but during reloading. . .I start to cringe when I can't figure out the person's pattern to either side of me (especially if they're shooting heavy loads).

What bothers me about TM's 3-second rule is that it's 3 seconds exactly . .not 2.5, not 2.9, but 3. I do try and abide by the rules whenever I'm at a range, but c'mon.

[Ratters]

As a range, Targetmasters is a place that I'll only go to if it's too late to head out to Reed's. As far as purchases, transfers, etc? I have no idea why you'd bother going there when Irvington Arms is less then 10 minutes away. You walk into TM and you really get the feeling it's just rickety...

+1000

Almost all my PPTs have gone through Irvington Arms. And I live in Fairfield. It's worth it to me to know that I'm dealing with a competent good guy.

[EasyT]

Sorry to hear your gun was mishandled. I visited TM for the first time about a week ago. Interesting cast of characters there. Young employees looked sketchy at best. Gang bangers, wearing colors and all, were signing up for range time. Despite the best display of handguns in stock that I have seen in a long time, didn't feel the need to return.

[saki302]

Maybe do the safe handling first, and then strip it down when you leave for 10 days?

Hey! Brilliant minds think alike! Actually, I brought in two complete pistols once, but left two receivers behind since they both fit in one box.

-Dave

[slocum]

Thats a weak argument.
Shooting is a skill, and if you can't practice, you can't get better.
The outside range I go to allows rapid fire on the plinking range.
Its supposed to be restricted to 22LR, but its not enforced.
I'm more bothered by the guy slow firing 44mag to my left than the guy rapid firing 308 to my right.

Well, weak argument or not, it is still a fact that newbies exist. C'mon - you've seen 'em. They're the ones who've got the target at 4-5 yds with a silhouette target that looks like 9mm Swiss cheese in front of 'em.

If a range has the rule there's probably a bad experience to go along with it. It's their sandbox. Don't get me wrong - I like to shoot fast too but sometimes it's not the greatest idea when the unitiated are around.

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