beware of target masters

[kantstudien]

Let's be realistic here, TM probably had some customer come in and say "Hey, do you guys have a TRP Operator I could try?" The TM staff said "No, not in stock... wait a minute... Here you go!"

Off with the cable lock, 50 rounds downrange, and back into the safe where nobody has to know (aside from the cut cable lock )

Don't get me wrong, I would still have a ****fit and demand to speak with a manager and probably go to the police department and even call DOJ. I would also want to purchase a gun of my choice at their cost to make things right. But I doubt it was used in a drive-by. Even still, better switch out the barrel and extractor dude.

[kurac]

Don't forget the slide and firing pin, they will leave marks on the spent brass as well.

[slocum]

Post content deleted due to original poster's lack of honesty in describing the true nature of what occurred.

[Nick5811]

Mr. Snort..hahahaha

And yes, I agree.

The guns are all over priced. My dept. uses them for our range qual and they *NEVER* show up on time to open the range. The staff is a bunch of tards most of the time. I was firing w/ my wife and her dad/bro and some knuckleheads had a shotgun and were practicing from 15ft away how many shots to cut the target in half. I am glad I didnt do my PPT there. I will not shop there EVER again.

Agree with the 5 min transaction x6, and the old guy with the beard is a retard. HAHAHA@Mr. Snort comment.

[ligamentum flavum]

sohijiro, are there any updates? how did you handle the situation besides wanting to inform the management? did your friend take possession of the pistol?

[hkfooey]

the more I read about the stories on TM, the scarier it gets...

[caliar15]

I always wanted to see the store but never made it when I was in the area, I guess I can write that one off. I never have heard anything good about that place, EVER!

[Pablo]

What's up with this thread... 7 days and no updates?

[Parados13]

I went to TM over the weekend because Reed's is not open as late as some of us would like. There was a skeleton staff on crew (or the rest were in the back) and right when I entered I noticed that a bunch of people in the far bay (B I think? at the end of the counters) were shooting a lot faster than three seconds. I took a look and they didn't look like trained professionals, young college kids maybe. I made a passive comment to the young guy behind the counter to see what was up but he just kind of shrugged.
They placed me in A bay, and a hundred rounds later I can still hear the half second delays of the guys in the far bay. Being the genius that I am I figured it would be okay to test the water, and right after one double tap a worker stormed in and yelled at me to observe the three second rule.

I was in the wrong, so I just nodded.

A few minutes later some guys come in with their 22's, and they were shooting kind of fast, but not as fast as the other guys.
Sure enough, the woman came in this time and started yelling at all of us to observe the rule (over the rapid fire from the far bay). She even gave us a "lesson" about how dangerous it was to have the target closer than 13-15 yards because of ricochet and promptly moved one guy's target to about that far away and said "This is where TM prefers you place your targets. You've been warned"

[Nick5811]

She even gave us a "lesson" about how dangerous it was to have the target closer than 13-15 yards because of ricochet...

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Ricochet of what? Airsoft rounds bouncing back off of paper targets? When is the last time you (or anyone for that matter) shot at a hanging paper target and had a ricochet?

I know when I was 12 and a) unsupervised and b) stupid I was 'rapid firing' a daisy CO2 pistol (hold down the trigger and work the cocking lever as fast as possible) I had a bb ricochet off of my brick backstop and hit me in the collarbone...but that was *TOTALLY* different...I doubt you were shooting a bb gun at a brick backstop from 10 feet.

[kantstudien]

Actually, I almost got hit in the nuts by a .357 magnum ricochet by one douche who used a 3X5 card on the metal hanger and hit the hanger every time! Not cool!

[m1aowner]

My last two recent trips to TM, I certainly wasn't observing a three second pause between shots. Didn't even know such a rule existed. Funny, don't remember the yahoo that checked me in mentioning a three second rule. All he said was no rapid fire, double taps, head shots, and no angry feelings while shooting. Perhaps he forgot to inform me of this rule beacuse of the sideways position of his baseball cap was blocking blood flow and oxygen to his brain. That sometimes can happen when not wearing your hat straight and watching too much MTV. Enforcement of the rule seems to apply when somebody that cares is working.

[PJA]

The sidways bill on a ballcap is a definate indicator of an IQ of under 100.
Pete

[slocum]

A few minutes later some guys come in with their 22's, and they were shooting kind of fast, but not as fast as the other guys.
Sure enough, the woman came in this time and started yelling at all of us to observe the rule (over the rapid fire from the far bay). She even gave us a "lesson" about how dangerous it was to have the target closer than 13-15 yards because of ricochet and promptly moved one guy's target to about that far away and said "This is where TM prefers you place your targets. You've been warned"

It seems to me that you had two choices. You could have unloaded and cleared your weapon on the spot, put your stuff away, paid your bill, saying as you did, that you found their selective application of their own (rapid fire) rules to be a detriment to safety in the establishment and walked out. Or, you could have done what you did which may have left them less challenged on the subject that it seems they should have been.

Whether rapid fire should or should not be allowed really isn't the point here. They play favorites and the question that needs an answer is why. They were allowing someone to break their rules - which of course incites others to do the same. Then, without explanation, they come in and swat everyone to whom they rigidly apply the rules with a newspaper as if they should know better. At best they are inconsistent and at worst they have the potential to be just plain reckless - what other rules are they willing to allow "preferred customers" to break? It seems that they might be willing to let some of them cut locks off of guns that other properly QUALIFIED individuals have purchased and fire away - as the original topic of this thread implies.

This aspect of this thread spells trouble as far as I'm concerned. This sort of shop and the people operating it are a prime example of how the public gets such a bad impression of people who "play" with guns because that's exactly what people like this do - they PLAY. Personally, I wouldn't give them two bits for a target let alone a lane fee or cash for my fun rounds. They sound like utter morons - morons who permit HIGHLY unethical (and probably illegal) things to occur in their shop. I'd stay away from an outfit like that - PERIOD!

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[jtyoshi]

Have u heard back from TM about the situation yet?