XD vs. Glock vs. HK USP

[N6ATF]

I wasn't replying to posts about NEW guns... sheesh. Where did that come from?

If you're buying new, you're just begging to pay too much when there's a perfectly functional non-s***ty looking used gun out there.

[ajl2121]

I'm sure I'm not the only one, but I would never buy a pre-owned pistol unless I really had to. Even if the used one were to be inspected, fired, and scrutinized for quality and reliability, I would just prefer to be the only owner of my gun (similar to how I would never buy a used bed or clothing). This is not to come of like an elitist comment...I'm a student with a less than perfect financial situation; however, smart spending allows me the luxury of not using used items...Just my preference in life.

[The SoCal Gunner]

I'm sure I'm not the only one, but I would never buy a pre-owned pistol unless I really had to. Even if the used one were to be inspected, fired, and scrutinized for quality and reliability, I would just prefer to be the only owner of my gun (similar to how I would never buy a used bed or clothing). This is not to come of like an elitist comment...I'm a student with a less than perfect financial situation; however, smart spending allows me the luxury of not using used items...Just my preference in life.

That's fine with me. More off-list and rare pistols that can only be PPT'ed for me. Only buying new is nice but I figured I can have twice as much guns if I pick up good quality used ones from time to time. I always inspect before hand and it depends on what the gun will be used for. If I have to have a gun in perfect condition than it will be new, otherwise used works just as well for me.

[fireblast713]

I'm sure I'm not the only one, but I would never buy a pre-owned pistol unless I really had to. Even if the used one were to be inspected, fired, and scrutinized for quality and reliability, I would just prefer to be the only owner of my gun (similar to how I would never buy a used bed or clothing). This is not to come of like an elitist comment...I'm a student with a less than perfect financial situation; however, smart spending allows me the luxury of not using used items...Just my preference in life.

Guns are mechanical things, and if properly cared for will last for a very long time, it's not really like buying a used bed, more like buying a used power tool or something. You don't sleep in your gun, or eat off your gun, or stick your gun into any private places (at least I hope you don't) so it's not like a gun gets "tainted" by someone owning it.

[chickenfried]

Whoever managed to get away with the topic shift should be a politician. That was slick.

Ohhhh you meant prices of new guns...

[N6ATF]

Blame the OP for never specifying NEW, not me.

[Rums]

Couple more problems for the XD........... right here.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=72831

Any XD made in 2006 or later will not have this problem because Springfield changed the finish.

[metalhead357]

Any XD made in 2006 or later will not have this problem because Springfield changed the finish.

there was MORe than the finish.............

Also the loaded chamber indicator is ALWAYS notched up, it was like this when I bought the gun new from turners but it works perfect so I didnt really care. So I'm thinking that if I send the slide to get refinished they could fix the chamber indicator too

Guys dont get me wrong; Springy makes fine (other) guns........... I just forever seem to run across the BAD for the XD....maybe its just 'net karma even when I aint looking for anything bad about them~ they still appear (at least to me) about 5X more frequently than just about any (recent) pistol; with only the jennings, locern et al being still the capstones of stoopiddome.

But C'mon...... a gun made in the 21st century having FINISH problems right outa the gate You go spend your money on 'em.... I'll wait until the 3rd or 4th gen with Service pack 2 installed before I pick one up.....

[Sidewaysammy]

Any naysayer on the M&P 45 ???
I too am looking at the USP 45, G21, XD45 and the M&P45.
THe UPS is expensive, but the G21 and the rest are in the same ball park.
My hand is XXL so size doesnt bother me.
Curious if there is anyone out there who looked at the M&P while also looking at the XD 45?

Need to make a deicision soon, my 30 days are coming up...........

[odysseus]

maybe its just 'net karma

It is. Honestly, this stuff is out there for every handgun I can think of on "teh internets". A good analogy is how many Glock pages/threads there are out there of problems and "do not buy". Some true, while most an over amplification.

Actually the XD system design and finish is a little older than some think, being it is a Croatian HS95 and then HS2000. The new finish and updates are courtesy of Springfield putting capital into this platform. Anyone with a XD45acp model has the new finish, and any of the new ones. The chamber indicator having problems is new to me, but with any mechanical part there will be a failure set, as all firearms do have. With a lifetime warranty from Springfield, it's hard to think that's too big of an issue right now.

XD's are good pistols. HK's are good. Glocks are good. I like them all, but one thing I don't like on Glocks is the position angle of the grip, which I know I am not alone on. It's not a big show stopper for me, but everyone has their personal prefences.

[BamBam-31]

Sooooo...crs1, did you end up getting an HK?

[MedSpec65]

Spend the bucks. Get the H&K.

[EricCartmann]

Another thing to consider is you will also need 5 magazines minimum. And things to hold your weapon and magazines.

5 HK magazines = $250

5 XD magazines = $125

XD comes with holster and magazine holder = $0

HK holster and mag holder (cheap krydex ones) = $40

All in all that's $165 more you have to pay for the HK that you did not consider. Also each HK mag only hold 12 rounds while the XD holds 13

[metalhead357]

Also each HK mag only hold 12 rounds while the XD holds 13

in free states............
Not here; both hold 10

[davedog665]

I"d go xd the grip angle is alot more common to that of the 1911 i know my friend shoots 1911 and both are guns feel very similar. Plus now you can get alot of aftermarket parts and for the basic parts springfield will actually ship it to you to install however this is limited because to live up to a lifetime warranty they want to do most of the work.

so i would choose xd .45 i've shot 2250 rounds now no probs. trigger feels butter but thats me feel um all shoot um all and after that you can't decide buy um all