XD vs. Glock vs. HK USP

[eccvets]

usp is by far the best of the 3!

[Vectrexer]

HK Wins!

But it's really more what your own body does in response to the pistol. Even a Raven .25 might be more effective than a HK USP in the right hands

[drunktank]

...*sigh*


XD = extremely reliable. Most parts are available. Lifetime warranty. Bore height above grip is more than glock. Some say better "1911-like" grip angle.(40 s&w mags work in XD9's and act as high caps without being so)

HK USP = well first off H&K can be held to a fairly high standard. Their stuff is expensive and for a reason. Fit and finish is nice. Remember these pistols were designed to be used with gloves. Expensive mags.

Glock = rock solid. POSSIBLY more reliable than XD's, the XD9 could have an edge. Time will tell, and any difference imo is negligible. Great aftermarket support.



ALL - reliable. Accurate. As has been rehashed over and over and over and over, try to shoot each if possible. Create a list of strong preferences and dislikes. It's hundreds of dollars, but on the other hand they will ALL serve you well. You just have to do your part and either find one that fits you well out of the box, and, regardless if so, PRACTICE ALOT. PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. Don't buy a pistol thats big $$ if you cant afford to be proficient with it or feed it. Would you trust your pistol with sd rounds that you've never practiced with?

In the end ignore the fanboy nonsense. Go on each guns' message boards and check out common issues/elements of each gun. The internet's pretty useful. Do some searching. As you can notice I don't have many posts. I know how to look for what I want to learn/know about. Don't be ignorant about a 400$+ purchase. Do your homework and don't let the Hordes of glock fans persuade you before you do your own research and gain the experience to make an educated choice instead of going off of internet hearsay and myths.

This is an excellent post in my opinion. To add to it I was more or less in the same boat last year. I shot everything around me and went with the USP (though a last minute decision had me choose the 9mm).

For ME, the grip angle of the glock wasn't wierd at all and the "high bore axis" of the HK's wasn't bad. The 1911 "hype" (no disrespect, I DO want one) had no affect on me as well - meaning that I don't think it's the best pointing, feeling, valued gun out there etc. The XD feels different than the other three mentioned obviously. The HK was the best feeling for ME, so I went with it. The "relatively" small cost increase for mags, guns itself, etc. means nothing to me as this serves as my HD weapon as well. Either way I'd trust my life with all manufacturers listed after shooting around 1k rounds trouble free which shouldn't be an issue at all with any ammo off the shelf. Good luck with your search,

[mywytefeet]

I wish Glock would make a trigger like my S & W M & P40.

I'm so glad they don't.

[5968]

H&K FTW!

[mywytefeet]

H&K FTW!

Although I'd personally take a glock, it does seem like the HK would be the best bet if you're coming from a 1911 (since you can get a variant with a safety (since you like those sorts a things.))

Not to mention HK are rock solid guns.

[downfall]

I have owned and carried the XD SC, when I lived in the US before moving to the PDRK Then i bought a G19 and have not looked back since. The Glocks combo of low bore axis, short trigger reset, simple design, availability of accessories and ability of civilains to work on them, make them my weapon of choice. Having said that I would stick with the 9mm glocks as the other calibers have proven to be problematic. I am certainly to Glock fan-boy but they seem to work for me.

[Sam]

In an emergency, a safety can get you killed (if you are too slow because of safety you might take incoming fire and it is "game over").

I've never bought this argument against any handgun with a safety. If practiced correctly, a person should be able to swipe the safety off as they are drawing or as they are picking up the gun for home defense. It shouldn't take anyone any longer to ready a safety-less weapon as one with a safety. We can always talk about if a person will remember to swipe the safety off. Again, this boils down to practice. I've never had a problem remembering to, it has become automatic for me, I do it without thinking when I need to do it. Although, I have to say that a frame mounted safety with the off position being down is the best. Those on the slide, for myself anyway seem way too high for easy off access during a draw.
-Sam

[5aa12]

I like my USP. I have probably 3k rounds through the tube and never had any problems. In addtion I like the ambi controls, de-cocker and ease of break down for cleaning. Others milage may vary.

[draconianruler]

Price not an issue I would get the HK USP. Otherwise, I would take a Glock, then HK, then XD.

[walter]

i use to bash on glock fan boys when i got my xd.. but now I pretty much damn near worship glock.. why?

1. trigger break is closer to the rear of the gun and shorter reset
2. lighter but still has less felt recoil
3. goodamn unlimited aftermarket support
4. overall just seems more efficient

[ar15barrels]

For ME, the grip angle of the glock wasn't wierd at all and the "high bore axis" of the HK's wasn't bad.

If you shoot them all side-by side and REALLY shoot them a bunch, the combination of the glock's shorter reset and lower bore axis really do make it the faster shooting gun compared to an XD or HK.

When I say faster, I'm talking about putting multiple good hits on a target as quick as possible.

[ar15barrels]

I like my USP. I have probably 3k rounds through the tube and never had any problems.

Only 3k rounds?
It's still new.
Go shoot that gun already.

[slowjonn]

CRS1,

If you are a 1911 guy already, stick with that platform. Seriously. Your gonna be disappointed with a plastic gun. I have owned and carried both the Glock 21 and HK USP45 (sold both). I currently own a 5" XD. None of them feel or hold my attention like a 1911. I would sell my XD if I could get a decent price for it. Plastic just don't work for me.

All three guns were/ are extremely reliable. Never had an issue with any of them. If you go that route, all will be solid in the reliability arena. You will just be disappointed in the fulfillment department. Some feel that reloading more with a 1911 is slower than having extra capacity in the plastic guns. Bah! I consistantly out-shoot and reload faster than my plastic carrying counterparts.

Good luck with your search. Everyone should own a plastic gun once (or three times), but I suspect you will continue to reach for the 1911 once the newness wears off that plastic.

[drunktank]

If you shoot them all side-by side and REALLY shoot them a bunch, the combination of the glock's shorter reset and lower bore axis really do make it the faster shooting gun compared to an XD or HK.

When I say faster, I'm talking about putting multiple good hits on a target as quick as possible.

Interesting point! I'll check it out next time we go out. Normally we shoot 1k or so rounds each, every month.