XD vs. Glock vs. HK USP

[metalhead357]

I've never heard of XDs with problems. Only good comments. I myself have two XD45s but have yet to take them to the range. Nevertheless, I bough them because of their reliability and good reviews from owners.

here's but one...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=29610&highlight=Springfield

though it is on a barrel conversion. Think we must travel in different circles here on the board as about a year ago I was considering one when nearly all I saw here was XD problems......called each of my buddies with them and asked how they'd like them...they dam near wanted to give them to me; these are two guys I've mentioned on several threads that also thought (For a while...until edumikated) the Keltec was a decent firearm. For them to jump so quickly OFF the XD was enough for me to shy away..... but again, that's just me........and I am very opinionated on guns and more so on first hand impressions of peeps I know and trust like the aforementioned friends.


to be fair, here is a older thread on some actually liking the XD

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=40223&highlight=Springfield

But then again-
With two aptly more readily available, tried & true firearms like the USP and/or the glock............ if it twer my money or my friend(s) I'd do all I could to steer them off an XD.......... YMMV

[Soldier415]

The only things I don't like about the Glock are the safety (or lack thereof) and the trigger. But its the "to hell and back" reliability that makes me consider it. I have been told that since I like 1911s, that I should go with the XD -- but I fail to see the comparison other that the grip safety...its a completely different feeling piece. I worry it may become a SW sigma or 99?

They recommend that because of the grip angle. The XD grip angle is based on the 1911, and the glock's is canted forward more.

Meaning, if you are where your muscle memory tells you that you are on target (if you are a 1911 shooter), you will be aiming several inches higher with the glock.

XD looks much better IMHO

[Socal858]

cant stand the XD. hate the trigger. hate the higher bore axis. hate how clunky it feels. and it hasnt been out long enough to make me confident in its reliability

theres nothing wrong wtih being a "glock fanboy". check out bigbore's g21 torture test, done by steve from adcofirearms. buried in silt, snow, sand, dropped off a plane; still running strong. you cant kill it.

chris dont let the lack of manual safety bug you, youll stop noticing it soon. its an accurate & well made pistol with a reputation that precedes it. the grip angle isnt a huge deal.

hk usp - more accurate than the g21 IMO. fits my hand better and i love the mag release. however i do hate the price and it did not rate as well on bigbore's torture test . .

[Rums]

Check out the M&P. Nice gun, and at a good price.

...if you want to buy a new gun every two or three years.

[crs1]

Wow, lots of great feed back here.....

Thanks for all the info, the thing is, I have shot and fondled all of these guns, and the problem is, I liked them all. So that is where the decision gets complicated. In a perfect world, I would get one of each!

I have a Steyr M9 right now, and I think the glock would be very similar, so I'm thinking it may be good to go with HK...

[5968]

My vote is for the H&K USP! I own it and love it.

[metalhead357]

Wow, lots of great feed back here.....

Thanks for all the info, the thing is, I have shot and fondled all of these guns, and the problem is, I liked them all. So that is where the decision gets complicated. In a perfect world, I would get one of each!

I have a Steyr M9 right now, and I think the glock would be very similar, so I'm thinking it may be good to go with HK...

So there you have it. Now go do it before you second guess yourself..... we've all been there. And who knows what may come in the coming months- you may end up still buying the others as you said. Life is way toooooo short to squander time over decisions like these if you already own at least one gun. I wouldn't say what I said if it was to be your first gun, or you ONLY gun (well, ok..I'd still say HK all the way!) but over the course of a lifetime your wants WILL change; so get what you want now, and worry about tomorrows wants..well, tomorrow

[N6ATF]

Always shop around for used H&K USPs... I've seen more and more popping up under $600. Don't pay anywhere near what you would new.

[Socal858]

My vote is for the H&K USP! I own it and love it.

fast318 is selling a compact i beleive

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=72792

boo yeah. really good guy, i sold him my benelli

[AresXD40]

XD 45 for me. As for the lack of parts there are only a few parts that are not avaliable to the public anymore. Most of the ones that you need to "build" a gun IE Slide/Frame, and the extractor and a couple of others. Out of the entire parts list I believe there are only 7 or 9 parts you can't get. Trying to locate the current list from XDTalk right now. Will update if I can find it.

[hoozaru]

if you are rich get a HK, if not stay with a Glock.

[1911su16b870]

Own all three (HK USP 45, Glock 21 and XD 45). My favorite of the three is the G21, XD second and HK third. IMO the USP requires more grip pressure than the others to shoot accurately, and such if I were issued/carried an USP, its the only gun I would regularly be shooting. I like the G21 slide and it seems that when you point in with the G21, as long as the rear of the slide is square in your vision, your sights will naturally be on target.

[crs1]

I don't see why everyone is saying hks are so expensive...last time I checked, Glocks aren't cheap either....maybe if it was the hk usp elite?

[aplinker]

I don't see why everyone is saying hks are so expensive...last time I checked, Glocks aren't cheap either....maybe if it was the hk usp elite?

It's about a $200 difference. The way people here will bend over backwards end rounding their FFL to save $20, that's enough to change things.

[krazz]

My USP has had ejection issues with poor ammo. My G21, G19, or G27 has NEVER had one single issue with well over 10,000 rounds between them.