What am I doing wrong?

[CK_32]

It's not the heat. It's just Calguns. I take breaks months at a time to get away from the stupidity.

Yea I seriously came to the same conclusion after this morning.

Maybe it is the gun or how its set up.

Possibly high sights so 6 o'clock hold if their not OEM.

The sights are drifted to the left so your hitting left so you drift them to the right.

Bingo you just brought your POI up and to the right I wish everything was that easy.

The sights on it are factory sights. And it's already been tweaked to compensate for the left push because the sights are already to the right.

All good info here. I found taking courses really helps. Not only do you learn the fundamentals but lots of little drills to help iron out your technique when the bad habbits start to creep back in. I find going dry, and then after that doing trigger control drills are an excellent tool to sharpen yourself back up when you start to slip. I try and take at least one (usually more) course per year.

Yea I like the guys grip close to mine but my top (left) hand is more on the pistol grip that the trigger guard. I just tried it with my hands with no gun and feels good. I'm going to have to try that. And I don't know if I can squat for 200+ rounds at the range. That takes some good leg strength. But I do the shooting hand foot back and left shoulder slightly closer to the target than the right side.

[hkdad]

Yea I seriously came to the same conclusion after this morning.



The sights on it are factory sights. And it's already been tweaked to compensate for the left push because the sights are already to the right.



Yea I like the guys grip close to mine but my top (left) hand is more on the pistol grip that the trigger guard. I just tried it with my hands with no gun and feels good. I'm going to have to try that. And I don't know if I can squat for 200+ rounds at the range. That takes some good leg strength. But I do the shooting hand foot back and left shoulder slightly closer to the target than the right side.

Yea I seriously came to the same conclusion after this morning.



The sights on it are factory sights. And it's already been tweaked to compensate for the left push because the sights are already to the right.



Yea I like the guys grip close to mine but my top (left) hand is more on the pistol grip that the trigger guard. I just tried it with my hands with no gun and feels good. I'm going to have to try that. And I don't know if I can squat for 200+ rounds at the range. That takes some good leg strength. But I do the shooting hand foot back and left shoulder slightly closer to the target than the right side.

Double Tap!!!

[CK_32]

Whoops. Yea my phone has been acting up today.

[tgil]

I'd start by moving the rear sight to the right. Your group will move in the direction you move your rear sight.

I was wondering if anyone else noticed that.

[CK_32]

Noticed what?

[Paradiddle]

Calling me out by name? That's not cool. I don't even know you. It would be one thing if we were buddies and you wanted to get my goat just to play around and make a joke, but I don't know you from Adam. This a pure a-hole move on your part, bubba.

You hate and run then have the balls to call me a fanboy?

I offer an informed opinion backed up by fact. You just stir the pot for giggles - and single me out of all people? WTF?

That shooting target (for example) that I posted above will actually help him, and if not him someone else. Yet you mock me for posting it. Childish to say the least. Grow up.

Oh Christ - take a pill you goof. You are such a Glock fanboy it's impossible for anyone who's been on this board for any amount of time to not know that. I was JOKING - hency the SMILEY FACE. It's the web - don't take yourself so seriously (which based on your little icon I thought you didn't).

Honestly - read this and see if you are a walking advertistment for Glock:

"The reason I like Glocks is they work great during Defensive Shooting. As in from a holster, when seconds count, and you are running and gunning. They are really simple to operate so they are fast. You don't have to fight with a safety or Double Action trigger pull. Things which slow you down, especially when you are new. Eliminate the need to draw from a holster and get your well placed shots off in under 1 second and it doesn't shine as much. If you have the luxury of taking a lot of time between each shot, then there a lots of guns that will probably out perform a Glock - especially if they are heavier."

Man - don't piss in the Glock pool around this place.....

As far as the degradation of Calguns - I've been here longer then most and seen the steady slide downhill as the place fills up with kids and nutrolls. Have a little fun boys - shooting is FUN!

[Kodachrome]

On a different note: If you want to see if your are flinching, have someone else load up a mag with a snap cap in there some where.
You will definately see if you are flinching.
Glock as you know have different geometry in the back strap and take awhile too adjust.
It will be totally different if you get a 45 like you were mentioning.
Good Luck

[BayouBullets]

QUite a few good thoughts already. One thought I didn't notice anyone else suggest yet. After making sure you are getting the center of the pad on the trigger, try taking a support grip (supporting index finger on top of strong hand middle finger) and wrap your support thumb over your strong hand thumb like you are holding it down from floating away. If that doesn't bring your hits to move back a bit, then immediately find someone to watch you through both live fire and some dummy rounds.

[Matt P]

My suggestions,
Find an IPSC/USPSA/IDPA shooter who will meet you at that range. Maybe through Calguns make arrangements to meet a fellow member there.
It would be helpful to have someone who has a firm grasp on what is a proper grip.
YouTube (You seem to have your own channel) use Todd Jarrett and even Dave Sevigny name searches will reward you with info on how to grip.
Todd- Todd and grip
Dave- Dave and his grip

You should re-center your rear sight, and leave them centered.
Your issue has nothing to do with the handgun.
It’s much more how you contact it, and induce movement, very consistent movement at that.

Stance should be as simple as using your natural fighting stance. What is your fighting stance?
If someone caused you to defend yourself as in a fist fight, what stance would you take?
Typically, that would be the proper form to shoot most firearms from. Some need to be more aggressive depending on cartridge, rifle or handgun.
The most important aspect is getting your weight on your toes.
To do that, all you really need to do is cover your toes with your knee caps as you look down. That usually helps get you into a proper form, but insuring to use what you would do anyways when being aggressive.
Why learn a special stance?
Your fighting stance, one you and just about everyone else has, will work very well for you. Plus, you already know it!

There are many, many threads dedicated to increasing your accuracy.

If you have never had formal handgun Instruction, do yourself and those who go shooting with you a huge favor, and attend some. Not only will it allow for you to be safer and informed, but also you could help those who shoot with you.
I noticed in the .308 rifle 800 yard off hand shot video, you sweep the camera person after you turn around.
Yes, I know you just ejected a cartridge. It would not matter.

[Knife Edge]

If you are right handed, you are likely tightening your right hand fingers as you "press" the trigger. Try locking out your right arm, squeeze more so with your left support hand and work on very slow controlled trigger squeezes. Pay careful attention to those right hand fingers that aren't pulling a trigger, I'm betting that's where your problem lies.

[CK_32]

My suggestions,
Find an IPSC/USPSA/IDPA shooter who will meet you at that range. Maybe through Calguns make arrangements to meet a fellow member there.
It would be helpful to have someone who has a firm grasp on what is a proper grip.
YouTube (You seem to have your own channel) use Todd Jarrett and even Dave Sevigny name searches will reward you with info on how to grip.
Todd- Todd and grip
Dave- Dave and his grip

Yea I will check those guys out thanks.

And I didnt muzzle sweep him. I know it looks like it in the video but im very gun safe. I was close but I remember not muzzle sweeping him and going right by him. Wasnt really even that close in person but yes I do see that in the video it looks like it.

But again thanks.

[locosway]

So I finally got my part out of my pistol yesterday at the range.

I shot my first 5 string group of the size of about a quarter or nickel.
3 were hugging 4 was a flyer and the 5th was right back on. Only
problem is it was about 6" to the left and 6" low from where inwas
Aiming. I was blaming my flinching or grip for being low and left but
I doubt I could screw up and make a 1" group at 7 to 10 yards with my glock 17.

I did the polish job the other day on top of the 3.5 connector and the pull lbs didn't go down but the trigger defiantly got smoother.

But why is my glock shooting low left and how do I fix it?

My rear sight is already as far left of the slide as it can go so the previous owner probably had the same issue. So what can I do to fix it. Because it has to be the gun not me.

I didn't take pics I don't know why but I have 3 people for proof

I'm not complaining I'm super happy about that grouping with a glock
Especially in my hands but I blames my grip or trigger pull for the low left.
Now I know it's the gun. Unless I did the same exact mistakes 5 times in a row.

I already told you how to fix it, and I said I'd come show you how too.

But, if I had to guess, I'd say it's because you didn't do a press check.

[ZombieTactics]

... I'd say it's because you didn't do a press check.

He's already established that he doesn't even know what a presscheck is in the first place, but he's too stubborn to admit it.

Nature has a way of sorting these things out, lol.

[Matt P]

You realize with the comment about he didn't do a press check, may cause him to explode........ I'm just sayin...

Oh, and I mean't REALLY explode, as in blow up, with body parts everywhere.






just sayin..... hehe

[lawaia]

CK,

Just watching the videos on your Youtube channel. In the M9 video, you did flinch when the mag was empty and you tried to fire the next round. That's a good indicator of what you need to work on. This is not a criticism, just an observation.

Dry fire at home by sighting in on a light switch or something small, and focus on holding that alignment through the trigger pull and reset. Smooth pull straight to the rear. Go slow. Give yourself 10 quality pulls, and then take a break. Once in the morning, and once in the evening.

Then when you go to the range, mix some dummy rounds into your magazines. This will give you a good indication of your progress. It will also give you good practice on remedial action.