"I don't like having two trigger pulls"

[hossb7]

and i have zero problems with the first pull on my sig. as others said, it's a training issue - not a hardware issue.

[RollingCode3]

The decocker I get, that's one thing driving me towards glocks, but as for the strength of pull, with a properly held-just-to-reset trigger, it's a pretty minimal difference to me. I guess big meaty hands can be an advantage?

For my next thread, I'll ask why Glock calls their pistols DA-only when you can't dry-fire them twice in a row... seems more like SA-only to me...

A Glock is only "half-cocked" or "partially cocked" and is only fully cocked by fully depressing the trigger. It is not really a DA or SA. Glock calls it safe-action.

[Voo]

I've "heard" that this was also an alternate workout routine..

[locosway]

People often forget about women shooters. My wife has a hard time with DA/SA pistols, and she much prefers the striker fired guns (Glock, XD, etc). I'm sure that she could train to use a DA/SA effectively, but why work twice as hard on something that's not necessary with many other guns?

For gun people, the Sig, HK, 1911, they are great guns. We have no problems remembering what's where and how they work. For a novice, it's not the same. Some don't understand why a gun should have a decocker, especially after shooting a Glock. This is just something else to keep in mind.

[zfields]

I dont mind it at all. Its still point and shoot so who care. For a noobie or a gf out at the range, yea sure the first DA shot may be terrible but with some range visits it becomes easier. My Sig is so smooth I really dont notice a huge difference. I love my Glock though to and think its a great trigger as well.

it makes a big diff if your shooting for speed, and doing multiple reloads.

[Shenaniguns]

Negative. Trigger reset and DA/SA trigger are two different things.

This ^

And I find it funny that so many people who love shooting their DA/SA guns, mainly do so on SA when the first DA shot is probably the most important.

[Shenaniguns]

IMO, all trigger pulls are the same. Squeeeeze.

that's why we can shoot so many different firearms with fair proficiency despite trigger disparities.

They're all different, but they're all the same as well.

I think the heart of the complaint with DA/SA is just that it's heavy and more difficult to shoot well, the other stuff is just macho rationalization to avoid saying something is too heavy for you to be effective with.



Disagree, it's no different than DA/SA, though by this standard you have 3 trigger pulls in a DA/SA gun (SA both from reset and w/ takeup)

You are incorrect, many people admit to using more trigger finger to get leverage on the heavy DA shot and then back to normal on SA. With a constant trigger from the M&P or Glock, it always stays the same.

[BamBam-31]

I've "heard" that this was also an alternate workout routine..

That would explain your complete mastery in hand skills.

[bombadillo]

in what way?

One gives you a long first pull, with a short, snappy second pull.

The other gives you a long first pull, with a short, snappy second pull.

Think of it as a revolver. Double action is the trigger being pulled back and cocked the second part of it is the release. Single action is where its already cocked back manually and you're pressing the trigger to release it and fire it. S/A is always going to be a much lighter pull than D/A unless you have a really really light double action like some of the Para 1911's have.

[Shenaniguns]

in what way?

One gives you a long first pull, with a short, snappy second pull.

The other gives you a long first pull, with a short, snappy second pull.

Let's ignore the length for one second, example:

DA/SA Sig 10 pound trigger/4 pound trigger
Glock 5.5 pound break regardless

[Shenaniguns]

The decocker I get, that's one thing driving me towards glocks, but as for the strength of pull, with a properly held-just-to-reset trigger, it's a pretty minimal difference to me. I guess big meaty hands can be an advantage?

For my next thread, I'll ask why Glock calls their pistols DA-only when you can't dry-fire them twice in a row... seems more like SA-only to me...

Are you looking for Guns 101 type info? There is google. Not being a smartass but it seems you need a lot of info.

[Shenaniguns]

and i have zero problems with the first pull on my sig. as others said, it's a training issue - not a hardware issue.

I know you don't, and many instructors agree that it is a training issue but it realistically takes more training to master a DA/SA weapon.

[Coded-Dude]

I've gotten the hang of my snubby 38 pretty good, but will still occasionally let one fly when trying to stop the pull before the second action. practice practice practice.

[hybridatsun350]

This ^

And I find it funny that so many people who love shooting their DA/SA guns, mainly do so on SA when the first DA shot is probably the most important.

Exactly. If I'm out shooting for fun, I will usually just cock the hammer and completely avoid DA on my DA/SA guns. Why mess with it? My Glocks are what I'm going to be carrying anyway!

[Coded-Dude]

my snubby has no hammer, so its either a full pull to fire or a tactical pull, then fire(the latter gives me way better accuracy). In the event that I needed to use my gun for SD I would probably just do a full pull(both actions). however my snubby is my B.U.G. so i don't worry about it too much.