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  • RollingCode3
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3221

    Originally posted by wu_dot_com
    Toyota reliability.... i guess i can see where i makes sense. glocks reliability is just like the massive toyota brake pedal recalls. the flaw is in the design.

    should i say polygonal rifling, lead bullets, kaboom.
    Keep on trolling
    Any gun owner who does not support the NRA is a freeloader.

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    • wu_dot_com
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 1362

      Originally posted by Shenaniguns
      I sent them the question from their page, I will post their response.
      i wonder how often does companies gets pointless questions like this....

      i wonder if a company have to factor in annual cost for useless activities such as settling internet debate...

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      • Shenaniguns
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2006
        • 6158

        Originally posted by wu_dot_com
        i wonder how often does companies gets pointless questions like this....

        i wonder if a company have to factor in annual cost for useless activities such as settling internet debate...


        I'll make it simple for you... They make that claim yet provide no facts to it.
        They also allow you to ask them questions on the page I linked.

        If they don't want to provide the information then why make the claim or why make the Q&A page they have?
        My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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        • sker13
          Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 362

          Originally posted by wu_dot_com
          no, once upon the time there was this company called H&K, and they produce the first polymer pistol called VP70. it predates the glock by 12 years and it can hold 1 more round. matter of fact, it can be converted into a 3 round burst weapon.

          so who is playing catch up, and who is the wannabe???

          you may choose to believe what you want to believe, but facts are facts. IMO VP70 is more pleasing to the eye too.

          know your gun history kids.

          That thing is uglier than a mud fence.

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          • wu_dot_com
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 1362

            Originally posted by Shenaniguns
            Nobody is debating which the first polymer handgun is, but the VP70 is not in the same class as the Glock when it comes to being the first successful polymer duty gun which paved the way for the HS2000/XD,Sigma,M&P, Sig Pro etc...

            So there's no need to get cocky, I don't see a bunch of modern handguns modeled after the VP70.
            not being cocky. just stating facts.

            how is VP70 not in the same class of glock? lets use Glock 17 for the comparison. polymer frame, high cap. DAO, intended for combat usage, 9mm, striker fire.... i can go on but you get the point.

            a successful gun also relies on many other factors such as government contract, advertising etc. Walther WA 2000 is a fine example of fine gun w/o commercial success. styler M pistol is another good example.

            regardless, VP70 pioneer the market where no such product existed before. unfortunately, the market wasn't mature at the time to take such a revolutionary concept.

            if the sequence of events were to happened differently, im sure we would see a very different picture today.

            Originally posted by Shenaniguns
            What about H&K's polygonal rifling?
            the H&K's polygonal rifling to chamber transition is not as sharp as the one on glock. plus H&K proof their barrels to +P+ rounds... dont know about glocks.

            Originally posted by RollingCode3


            Playing catch up? really? Did the VP70 ever become popular? Did any LE agency pick them up at that time?

            no, it never reached the same acceptance level as the glock. but a variety of reasons unrelated to the actual gun design and quality are the cause.

            yes, some countries did use them once upon the time.

            Originally posted by RollingCode3
            Keep on trolling
            it must be nice to live in your world. i envy people like you where when things are contradicting to your beliefs, you can simply discount or redefine them to make you feel superior. unfortunately, in the real world we call that being ignorant.

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            • wu_dot_com
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 1362

              Originally posted by sker13
              That thing is uglier than a mud fence.
              but it sure have some very good Hollywood and gaming industry records.

              that gun have been used to kill zombies (RE2) and aliens (Aliens)

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              • RollingCode3
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 3221

                Originally posted by wu_dot_com


                it must be nice to live in your world. i envy people like you where when things are contradicting to your beliefs, you can simply discount or redefine them to make you feel superior. unfortunately, in the real world we call that being ignorant.
                Yup. I live in my little world. and you're not. I just read your other comments on other threads, you bashed Glock like no tomorrow. If you on this board long enough, you should know by now that i am not a glock fanbois. I sold 4 glocks in the last two months to buy other handguns. But what do i know. Like you said, I am just being ignorant..

                FYI, this thread is about XD vs. Glock. You brought H&K into this discussion and then started to bash Glock. We all know that you hate GLOCK. We get the point.
                Any gun owner who does not support the NRA is a freeloader.

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                • stormy_clothing
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 2809

                  simple 1 is a glock the other wants to be - glock is the standard by which all others are measured in current handguns. Actually I don't recall anyone I know personally that has ever said they would depend there life on an xd
                  Last edited by stormy_clothing; 12-22-2010, 3:49 PM.

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                  • Gryff
                    CGSSA Coordinator
                    • May 2006
                    • 12686

                    Originally posted by GW
                    XD has grip safety of dubious value. You cannot rack the slide without holding the grip
                    You also can avoid blowing hole in your leg while holstering an XD because your shirt gets wedged in the trigger guard (because of the dubious-value grip safety). You can with the Glock (it even has the cute little title of "Glock leg"). This is a non-issue in competition, but a serious issue with IWB holsters for concealed carry.

                    The hoopla over the XD grip safety is a joke. I've never seen one fail. I've never met anyone who has seen one fail (reading about it on the Internet doesn't count). I hate the 1911 grip safety because I cannot reliably deactivate the grip safety, but I have never had a similar problem with the XD (including thousands of rounds fired in the stress of competition as well as several handgun courses that included weak-hand manipulations).

                    Having said that, the basic difference of Glocks and XDs are the ergonomics of the guns and, to a lesser degree, the feel of the triggers. Glocks are easier to work on and find parts for.

                    Basically, anyone who tells you that one is better than the other is full of ****. Buy the one you shoot the best and you'll have made the right choice.
                    My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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                    • wu_dot_com
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1362

                      Originally posted by RollingCode3
                      Yup. I live in my little world. and you're not. I just read your other comments on other threads, you bashed Glock like no tomorrow. If you on this board long enough, you should know by now that i am not a glock fanbois. I sold 4 glocks in the last two months to buy other handguns. But what do i know. Like you said, I am just being ignorant..

                      FYI, this thread is about XD vs. Glock. You brought H&K into this discussion and then started to bash Glock. We all know that you hate GLOCK. We get the point.
                      bash on glock like no tomorrow... what a dramatic description don't you think... (please dont answer, its a rhetorical question)

                      i dont bash on glocks, i think they are fine weapons for their designed performance. i do bash on the myth that some of those moronic consumers have attributed to glocks. i only attack unsupported clams while i remain fair and give credit where its due. you on the other hand, i cant say the same.

                      you've said you are not a glock fanboy, yet you've sold 4 glocks which tells me at one point you had to acquire those 4 glocks. in the real wold, having 2 or more of the same gun is excessive. so, as hard as it may be, you have to accept that you are at minimum a glock advocate.

                      last, glock fanboys started to bash on all other brands with their unsubstantiated clams. so i was simply setting the records straight for anyone who might use this thd as future reference.

                      though you may not have the capability to distinguish the difference, i never did "bash" on glock. i had simply stated the facts.

                      judging from your posts, i really dont think you can comprehend all those information. so just so you know, i will do us both a favor by ignoring your future post in this thd... no hard feelings btw.

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                      • Shenaniguns
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 6158

                        Originally posted by wu_dot_com
                        bash on glock like no tomorrow... what a dramatic description don't you think... (please dont answer, its a rhetorical question)

                        i dont bash on glocks, i think they are fine weapons for their designed performance. i do bash on the myth that some of those moronic consumers have attributed to glocks. i only attack unsupported clams while i remain fair and give credit where its due. you on the other hand, i cant say the same.

                        you've said you are not a glock fanboy, yet you've sold 4 glocks which tells me at one point you had to acquire those 4 glocks. in the real wold, having 2 or more of the same gun is excessive. so, as hard as it may be, you have to accept that you are at minimum a glock advocate.

                        last, glock fanboys started to bash on all other brands with their unsubstantiated clams. so i was simply setting the records straight for anyone who might use this thd as future reference.

                        though you may not have the capability to distinguish the difference, i never did "bash" on glock. i had simply stated the facts.

                        judging from your posts, i really dont think you can comprehend all those information. so just so you know, i will do us both a favor by ignoring your future post in this thd... no hard feelings btw.


                        Thank you sir, we feel so enlightened
                        My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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