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  • kenjimatic
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 884

    I've gotten robbed... :(

    A friend of a friend was selling his 2 berettas(92fs and 92compact), so I decided to pick up both of them for $775. They look like they only been shot a couple hundred rounds each. The owner of the guns suggested for us to go to an FFL that was closer to him because he has never been there before, I never been there too so I decided it wasn't a bad idea because I wanted to check out the place too. I filled out the paper work and everything went smoothly until the FFL told me how much it was to do the transfer. "Since you're DROS'ing 2 I gave you a discount and it will be $90 for the transfer of both guns" said the FFL. I'm only 26 and almost had a heart attack. I asked the FFL nicely since he gave me a "discount" how much was the cost of a transfer if I only did 1, he replied "it's $50 per gun". The FFL said that it was kinda late(6pm) so for me to pick up the guns on the 11th day because he isn't going to do the background check until the next day. I just grinned and gave him a $100 dollar bill. We left the store and the seller apologized because he didn't know that the FFL charged $50 per transfer so he gave me $20 because he felt bad. Well, tomorrow is my 11th day and after I pick up my toys I'm never ever going to step foot in that store, ever again..
  • #2
    ChrisTKHarris
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4203

    What store was this? None is Sacramento I hope.

    I would have walked out and gone to another FFL on another day.
    Don't let the name fool you...

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    • #3
      bsg
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2009
      • 25954

      well at least your seller was cool people and helped with the cost; bringing it down to a reasonable amount out of your pocket. oh, and congratulations on your berettas.
      Last edited by bsg; 07-09-2010, 7:59 PM.

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      • #4
        derek@thepackingrat.net
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 515

        What store is this? PPT should only be $35 for one firearm - max. They may charge $10 for each additional firearm.

        See FAQ # 13.

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        • #5
          Unit74
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 2359

          So you did two PPT's and he charged you $90?


          Call the DOJ and report his butt. He violated the law.

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          • #6
            Unit74
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 2359

            Originally posted by ei9htzer0
            They may charge $10 for each additional firearm.

            See FAQ # 13.
            That's only for long guns.

            What fees can I charge for handling a Private Party Transfer (PPT)?

            If the transaction is a PPT, you are restricted to charging no more than $25.00 in State fees described and $10.00 per firearm for conducting the PPT. For example:

            1. For a PPT involving one or more handguns, the total allowable fees are $35.00 for the first handgun, and $31.00 for each subsequent handgun.
            2. For PPTs involving one or more long guns, the State fees are limited to $25.00 for the whole transaction plus $10.00 dealer fee per firearm transferred.

            (PC section 12082)
            Last edited by Unit74; 07-09-2010, 8:01 PM.

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            • #7
              WTSGDYBBR
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 2159

              I never paid more then $35 bucks "RAPE"
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              • #8
                rrr70
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 1832

                Originally posted by ei9htzer0
                What store is this? PPT should only be $35 for one firearm - max. They may charge $10 for each additional firearm.

                See FAQ # 13.
                Handguns require separate DROS for each one, so total should of been $70.
                "The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory" Jeff Cooper

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                • #9
                  kenjimatic
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 884

                  It is around sacramento. When he told me the price I wanted to walk out but I figured he had my guns and I filled out the paper work I didn't really have a choice. But then again I don't know.. Whats happened had happened...

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                  • #10
                    ChrisTKHarris
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4203

                    Originally posted by kenjimatic
                    It is around sacramento. When he told me the price I wanted to walk out but I figured he had my guns and I filled out the paper work I didn't really have a choice. But then again I don't know.. Whats happened had happened...
                    NAME THEM! We want/need to know so we can avoid them.
                    Don't let the name fool you...

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                    • #11
                      littlejake
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 2168

                      I thought the fees for PPT's were fixed by state law. I thought $35, which includes DROS, was the present maximum for a PPT. So, seems like $70 for two should have been the max permitted by law.

                      Did he, by chance, charge you $20 for 2 gun locks? He can do that.

                      I know an FFL transfer, such as the dealer receiving a handgun from another FFL for you is unregulated as to fees and can run as high as $150.
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                      My posts are my own opinions and do not reflect those of any organization I am a member of.
                      Nothing I post should be construed as legal advice; if you need legal advice, see a lawyer.

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                      • #12
                        azn_wrx
                        Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 453

                        I would contact CGF to see if they could write a nice letter explaining the law.

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                        • #13
                          remyjoeboxer
                          Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 162

                          About $35/pc sounds about right most anywhere. but I think you're pretty spot on after the $20 from your friend. That was pretty cool of him.
                          Don't feel too bad, I think there are actually places that charge tax on PPT transfers, if from the store. (can't be sure about the last statement because I've never done PPT at a place that takes tax, just saw this info from time to time when browsing SoCal sellers on GunBroker.com)
                          Don;t stress about the guy or place because you are getting your toys! My toys also seem to perk me up, and new ones are the best.

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                          • #14
                            JosephP
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 1359

                            $35 for each PPT.
                            You donated $20 to that greedy dealer.
                            It is sad that there are gun dealers trying to rip you off.

                            NRA Certified Instructor
                            Member of LASC

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                            • #15
                              RobG
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 4887

                              Originally posted by cedew
                              I see some disappointment with the way the shop handled the transaction, what exactly did they do wrong (other than maybe overcharge)?
                              Um, yea. They overcharged him which is illegal.




                              Go back and tell them they made a mistake and you would like a refund. If they refuse then kindly state that you will be contacting the DOJ and reporting them.

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