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The Bersa Thunder .380 is a great bargain. Unlike a couple of postings here I haven't had feed or ejections problems and was pleasantly surprised at the accuracy at 25 yards. The are a few things to watch out for in this pistol:
1. It's a blowback with a sharp component to the recoil. I've talked to two other owners an they agree there is sharpness to the recoil. I put a different grip on mine which helped a little.
2. When you field strip it, the recoil spring is not symmetrical. The opening of one end is slightly smaller (and thus tighter) than the other end. The tight end goes to the breech side of the pistol, the larger end to the muzzle. Reportedly getting it swapped will lead to reliability issues.
3. If you get the Lipsey model with the black/gold trim, the gold does not like Gun Scrubber.
4. The Decock lever is usually quite gritty - I put some Gun Butter on it and worked cycled it a lot to break it in.
5. The slide lock mechanism is reported to be easily worn out. I don't use the slide lock to release the slide, I sling shot it.
6. I've heard factory magazines are a must.
The 380 cartridge itself is certainly less powerful than 9mm. The issue is one of penetration. There is a lot of discussion on whether or not to simply use hardball rather than self defense ammo to get penetration while sacrificing expansion.
And the biggest problem - finding ammo.
Here's a couple of links:
http://www.bersatalk.com/forum/ Then scroll down to the 380 section.
Need grips, magazines, holster:
I've gotten magazines and the rubber wrap around grip from the condors flight site. Been several years but if they are as good as they were when I did business with them, it's a good source.Last edited by Old4eyes; 06-06-2010, 8:53 AM.Send Lawyers, Guns and Money - On second thought, hold the Lawyers.Comment
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I'd rethink this notion, go to a gunstore, hold the two up to each other and compare every dimension.
The published specifications of both guns - and the way they are measured - might be leading you to conclusions which evaporate the moment you physically compare the two. For instance: Glock measures "width" as being the width of the slide itself, while Ruger measures at the point of the slide releases. The actual slide of the SR9C is a tad bit slimmer, and the grip even more so. Perhaps it's some kind of odd illusion that makes it appear/feel so, but it sure looks/feels that way when you are standing there with both guns in your hand.
More to the topic: the Bersa 380 is an awesome little gun.Last edited by ZombieTactics; 06-06-2010, 9:52 AM.|
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Nothing wrong with a Bersa 380 but ammo is a little harder to find and more expensive (than 9mm). If you want a slim handgun, check out the Kahr pistols. After the break in, they are reliable. And Kahr's CS is good so if you have any problems, just hit em up.
I would recommend the Kahr CW9, P9 and PM9. They also have it in 380 acp, 40sw and 45 acp.Comment
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Checked out the SR9C and the Glock 26 verses the Bersa and size wise the Bersa beat them out for what I'm looking for. Now they had a kahr 40 and it was pretty slim but they didn't have a 9 to show me which the guy said was a tiny bit smaller than the 40. I liked the Kahr but it's also the price of the Bersa...just can't beat it.Nothing wrong with a Bersa 380 but ammo is a little harder to find and more expensive (than 9mm). If you want a slim handgun, check out the Kahr pistols. After the break in, they are reliable. And Kahr's CS is good so if you have any problems, just hit em up.
I would recommend the Kahr CW9, P9 and PM9. They also have it in 380 acp, 40sw and 45 acp.Mossberg 500
Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD9
Bersa .380Comment
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Initial cost between the Bersa and Kahr is definitely something to think about but in the long run, once you factor in ammo, the Kahr is, for lack of a better description, more "practical."
But it's up to you. Just make sure it fits you well and you can shoot it comfortably.Comment
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For sure and when I asked the guy how much for .380 ammo he said 18.00 per 50 box...wasn't thrilled about that but it was also the gun store prices. Btw, I started a thread on what's the best site for buying ammo online and have had no responses yet. I have bought 9mm and .22 online before, a buddy and I go in on it together and that makes it cheaper.Initial cost between the Bersa and Kahr is definitely something to think about but in the long run, once you factor in ammo, the Kahr is, for lack of a better description, more "practical."
But it's up to you. Just make sure it fits you well and you can shoot it comfortably.
Mossberg 500
Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD9
Bersa .380Comment
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I too have heard that Bersas are not the most 'shootable' guns, but I think that's personal preference. I've also heard that they have problems with certain kinds of ammo. Those two have been enough to scare me away from the gun. I know that's unjustified, but if it's my carry weapon, which my life might very well depend on some day, that's all I need to be a little chicken. On top of that, is the .380 issue. I know it 'should' do the job, but personally, as an old guy, if I get into trouble, I want the most punch that I can handle, since I might only get one shot and want it to be the biggest caliber possible.Comment
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A friend has a Bersa and I have shot it alot. For the price, I thought it to be an excellent pistol. It fit her hands perfect and she was able to control and shoot it perfectComment
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