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Originally posted by LibrarianWhat compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)
If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement? -
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That?s a statement! Can I add to my signature?sd_shooter:
CGN couch patriots: "We the people!"
In real life: No oneComment
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One other item mentioned in recent court papers is the 3 for 1 removal provision. We could see the return on prior removed models such as the HK expert.
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Originally posted by LibrarianWhat compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)
If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?Comment
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What specific handguns are you thinking would be eligible?
The state's CLI requirement is not simply a painted extractor or a sight hole.
There also needs to be markings on the slide to explain if the chamber is loaded or not.Randall Rausch
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As long as the order was issued, that should mean that microstamping is enjoined and the roster should be open to handguns that meet all the remaining requirements.
What specific handguns are you thinking would be eligible?
The state's CLI requirement is not simply a painted extractor or a sight hole.
There also needs to be markings on the slide to explain if the chamber is loaded or not.Comment
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the shield plus would be eligible. it is backwards compatible with shield 1 slide which has the lci cut outComment
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Roster is not going away, just the microstamping, LCI, and magazine disconnect requirements.
Guns will still need drop/function safety testing to be listed on the Roster, which means it's highly unlikely any guns no longer in production (and not yet C&R) will ever appear for sale soon in CA as dealer inventory, for being on the Roster.
And it's unlikely any new production guns will be submitted and added to the Roster inside of the next 14 days, to be ready for sale and in stock at a dealer's inventory, even if Bonta and Newsom don't seek to block this.
So in essence, expect no changes in availability for quite some time, maybe a month at the earliest, if that's only if in fact a manufacturer was waiting in the wings with a gun ready to submit, all testing done, paperwork, fees paid - to sieze the moment.Comment
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The cases are only going to change the requirements to the gun manufacturers so that gun manufacturers can add additional handguns to the roster.
Also, both judges have issued their preliminary injunctions with 14 day stays in place so that the state has time to appeal to the 9th.
If they do that with their final orders as well, then there absolutely will not be a freedom week as the state will certainly appeal before the clock runs out.Randall Rausch
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Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
Most work performed while-you-wait.Comment
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I understand the frustration with the roster, but why the hate for cops or other exempt ones? PORAC (state wide police association) supported overturning the roster. If no cops were willing to sell off roster guns (for some $), then the off roster premium would sky rocket as the the very limited supply available would plummet as only a few that get intra-familial transfers or recent new residents from other states would be left. Why would you begrudge anyone from selling anything for what the market price is, unless that individual manipulated the market? There sure are a lot people on this site that that say they love this country and apple pie, but evidently don?t care for capitalism.
Apparently some of them forgot to review the laws around doing business without an FFL and ran afoul of the feds.
I'd bet money the only reason PORAC may be in support of overturning the roster is that it didn't extend to retirees who are now seeking an extension to their previous exemption.Last edited by Russian Bot; 04-05-2023, 11:30 AM.Comment
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