Glock 19/17 Optics-Ready Slide - What will you get?

[hntnnut]

Here is the work battlewerx did on my G20. Optic cut, forward slide serrations, suppressor sights installed, and refinish.

Richard

[rodralig]

Here is the work battlewerx did on my G20. Optic cut, forward slide serrations, suppressor sights installed, and refinish.

Just placed an order with Battle Werx for my G19 OEM slide. Will be sending it via USPSA on Monday...

If it looks good and sturdy - I may have my 21SF done as well. My eyesight is just getting worst that I may need to convert my other pistols to RDS, as well.

I've had great luck with ZEV slides.

I really like the look of the Duty slide of the ZEV.

But, right now, can't risk spending another $400 and not be sure of that the pre-cut is truly of OEM profile that I can use any holster made for that pistol...


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[JCHavasu]

I really like the look of the Duty slide of the ZEV.

But, right now, can't risk spending another $400 and not be sure of that the pre-cut is truly of OEM profile that I can use any holster made for that pistol...


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I get it. The holsters I have used it in have worked fine, but I certainly can't speak to all.

[rodralig]

Here is the work battlewerx did on my G20. Optic cut, forward slide serrations, suppressor sights installed, and refinish.

Just placed an order with Battle Werx for my G19 OEM slide. Will be sending it via USPSA on Monday...

If it looks good and sturdy - I may have my 21SF done as well. My eyesight is just getting worst that I may need to convert my other pistols to RDS, as well.

Hi R -

Good morning!

How long ago did send your G20 to BattleWerx? How many week did it took? Mine is already at 6-weeks and still shows Customer Shipment Received: Machining/Re-finishing in Progress.

Does it really take that long?



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[Snoopy47]

There are slide mounting options that predate the MOS slides and milling.

https://www.jtdefense.com/optic-mount/glock-red-dot-optic-mount#slideshow-3

As well, many optics have mounts for non milled slides, where the rear sight is drifted out, and replaced with a mounting receiver slid into the rear sight slot. So this is solid as well.



If willing to hone out the front of your Gen3 you could get a Gen4 MOS to work on it.

[crufflers]

Here's one on E-Bay at $160 for an Gen4 MOS G19 slide. WITH THE BARREL
A Gen 4 will mount to a Gen 3 Frame and they make after market spacers for it to close up the empty space between the slide and frame.

You sure? I have a GEN3 17's and 22's and a GEN4 17... the GEN3 slides FIT ON THE GEN4 frame, but not the reverse. The GEN4 MOS slide doesn't fit all the way. The GEN4 FRAME is the one that looks like it needs a spacer to seal the gap with a GEN3 slide on it.

Maybe 19's are different? I dunno, but doesn't work for 17's.

Since I had a GEN4 17 and a GEN4 41... I bought the 17 MOS and 40 MOS slides... I know that works.

For my GEN3 19, I opted to try a Brownell's window cut RMR slide... and got a Shadow Systems build kit, I love it. The original slide has a SI Mass Driver on it, so I use that one as well.

[Snoopy47]

You sure?

You're right

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019247075?pid=664410

spacers for 3 to 4, not 4 to 3

Guys have done it, but have modified the front of the gen3 frame. At that point, I'd just mill the gen3 slide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSrlAg2jH-o

[crufflers]

You're right

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019247075?pid=664410

spacers for 3 to 4, not 4 to 3

Guys have done it, but have modified the front of the gen3 frame. At that point, I'd just mill the gen3 slide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSrlAg2jH-o

Yeah the GEN4 slide hits that plastic nose... the difference is that gap seen when you place a GEN3 slide on a GEN4 frame. I wish we could buy $100-$150 frames here, but it is a PITA or impossible in CA like everything else.

[Snoopy47]

Yeah the GEN4 slide hits that plastic nose... the difference is that gap seen when you place a GEN3 slide on a GEN4 frame. I wish we could buy $100-$150 frames here, but it is a PITA or impossible in CA like everything else.

You're just better off buying a PPT Gen4. Pre panic/CV19, the Gen5's have pushed down Gen4 premium drastically.

Frustratingly, the really only different between the 3 and 4 is the modular back strap. The both have finger grooves. Other than that, and well, the front of the frame needing honing out all the parts are interchangeable.

But it's a huge thing to get an OEM MOS slide.

There are solutions for a pre MOS slides that Optic manufactures put out. I own a 1st Generation Deltapoint and bought the package with all the multiple mounting parts, to include Glock pre MOS.

I could mount my Deltapoint to an unmodified Gen3 slide right now, but it's on another gun. So long as the mounting holes are the same for the NEW DeltaPro's I imagine I could do the same.

If this is straight up going to be a Carry gun I certainly would be in the market for an upper end optic like the Deltapoint. So this whole conversation about slide options might be moot.

[rodralig]

There are slide mounting options that predate the MOS slides and milling.

https://www.jtdefense.com/optic-mount/glock-red-dot-optic-mount#slideshow-3

As well, many optics have mounts for non milled slides, where the rear sight is drifted out, and replaced with a mounting receiver slid into the rear sight slot. So this is solid as well.

Interesting on the JT Defense concept, and compared to others, they have a third point of contact with the backplate.

That said, how solid is the solution of mounting plates to the rear sight slot?



But I am thinking that this may be a good enough solution for my G21SF as a home defense pistol (mounting the RMR06) rather than having the slide milled or getting a new slide to be milled (I have subscribed to a few shops, but still no word on availability of OEM slides).


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[crufflers]

You're just better off buying a PPT Gen4. Pre panic/CV19, the Gen5's have pushed down Gen4 premium drastically.

Frustratingly, the really only different between the 3 and 4 is the modular back strap. The both have finger grooves. Other than that, and well, the front of the frame needing honing out all the parts are interchangeable.

But it's a huge thing to get an OEM MOS slide.

I like the Dueck, Raven, etc... with iron sights milled into the sight base.

GEN4 texture is pretty good too, though so is RTF2. Also, the mag release is a lot better for me and they come with an extra mag, better RSA, etc... Back when they price differential was like $50 they were FOR SURE the best deal over a GEN3. Realistically, I like my GEN3 RTF frames just as much... but that beavertail is superior to any flimsy aftermarket GEN3 bolt ons I have used and tossed.

[Jacques.TrainWithPurpose]

The easy answer is get a Glock MOS. I just got one and purchased a forward controls mounting plate to make up for one of the issues that the Glock MOS slide has. Ive seen Red dots peel off under heavy use without a good mounting system with the MOS. I personally go with SlideWorks slides for most of my Glocks and they work great for half the price of ZEV. I run my g17 really hard and love it.

[Levi123]

Fire 4 Effect LLC

[anthracite]

There are slide mounting options that predate the MOS slides and milling.

https://www.jtdefense.com/optic-mount/glock-red-dot-optic-mount#slideshow-3

As well, many optics have mounts for non milled slides, where the rear sight is drifted out, and replaced with a mounting receiver slid into the rear sight slot. So this is solid as well.

Any first hand experience with this mounting setup?

I wonder if because the mount replaces the rear sight if it's less likely to have holster compatibility issues too.

Thinking about just biting the bullet and ordering one for my G23.

[rodralig]

Done! Replaced the Suarez slide with a OEM-milled from BattleWerx (yeah, to avoid any more holster compatibility issues). Looks good...!

Then zeroed it for 10-yards. With the 8MOA circle - about 2-inches or less groups at 10-yards using 147GR factory ammo (Lawman TMJ).

Adding the following -

• Glockstore Thug Plug
• Jentra Tungsten Guide Rod + 15-lbs ISMI spring
• Talon Grips Pro
• Taylor Freelance basepads

I guess my Wife is GTG for her "refresher" class in early January....! (was really worried that the BattleWerx's slide won't arrive in time).




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