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    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2018
    • 2267

    You can sell Colt 1911s all day every day 'idiot mark' or not. It's a non issue.
    California Native
    Lifelong Gun Owner
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    ....."He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

    Declaration of Independence, 1776

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    • B2D
      Member
      • Aug 2018
      • 468

      On a related topic... anyone have these or know how well they work pertaining to ease of reassembly?


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      • Bakerloo
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 1709

        Originally posted by B2D
        On a related topic... anyone have these or know how well they work pertaining to ease of reassembly?


        https://www.10-8performance.com/slid...2/#description
        I have the one from 10-8 Performance in my Springfield 1911. I didn't want to mess with notching out the original slide stop. I think it makes it a little easier to reassemble.
        ...while the buffoon in the White House prances around celebrating butt sex.

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        • nedro
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 4130

          Glad you took the first step.

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          • theduracellbigd
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 1139

            Boy I am glad I bought a Glock, saved me from feeling like an idiot.

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            • heidad01
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 4902

              Originally posted by B2D
              On a related topic... anyone have these or know how well they work pertaining to ease of reassembly?


              https://www.10-8performance.com/slid...2/#description
              Good post. Thanks.

              For folks who do not want to do Dremel/filing/sanding/touch up blueing work or do not have the tools at hand.

              Both^^ are very reputable shops.

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              • B2D
                Member
                • Aug 2018
                • 468

                Originally posted by Bakerloo
                I have the one from 10-8 Performance in my Springfield 1911. I didn't want to mess with notching out the original slide stop. I think it makes it a little easier to reassemble.
                Thanks for the input. I've got an SA 1911 as well.

                The Cabot one has a small groove in it on the face that engages the plunger - you can barely see it in the photo, it looks more prominent in the video for it by Cabot on YouTube.

                The 10-8 version has a longer pad, though.

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                • capo602002
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 113

                  I won't make excuses - careful as I am sometimes s__t happens. Just move on and try to be more careful.

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                  • timbo399
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1765

                    Originally posted by TheFlash
                    When I bought my S&W stainless 1911 before it dropped off the roster many years ago, I did not know about the 'idiot scratch'.
                    I just read the manual that came with the 1911 and did what it said for disassembly and reassembly.
                    So yes, when I reassembled, I did scratch it... Doesn't show up much since it's stainless, and quite frankly - it was intended to be a shooter and a pistol I would use and have fun with, so I didn't really care.
                    That said, I now know what to do so I didn't do it again - just learn from our mistakes so we don't do it again... That's life...
                    Same story for me. My first gun I ever bought was a S&W 1911. First time taking it apart I scratched it. It was only much later from reading and learning on this forum that I found the proper definition = idiot scratch!! But I still own that SW1911 and she's a shooter-- doesn't bother me.

                    Now my car is a whole other story. I drive it to work and home every day and any time I find a new little scratch it drives me insane until I get it fixed.

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                    • GM4spd
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2008
                      • 5682

                      I give Military 45s a pass for an idiot mark. Even after 100 years this military has a hint at one,maybe.



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                      • Fishslayer
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 13035

                        Originally posted by B2D
                        On a related topic... anyone have these or know how well they work pertaining to ease of reassembly?


                        https://www.10-8performance.com/slid...2/#description
                        I believe that bevel is called the Logman mod?

                        Some of my 1911s come with that bevel. Definitely makes life easier.

                        Originally posted by GM4spd
                        I give Military 45s a pass for an idiot mark. Even after 100 years this military has a hint at one,maybe.
                        I don't recall hearing the Gunny mention an "idiot scratch" even once in my training. We certainly weren't looking for it on any inspections.
                        "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
                        You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
                        You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


                        Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                        I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                        Originally posted by redcliff
                        A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                        • BOBGBA
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 2390

                          Originally posted by nedro
                          You guys are funny.
                          Take the sand out of your V and continue shooting.
                          It's that simple.
                          I need to try and remember this one, so I can put it to good use.
                          God Bless America - My iTrader rating - https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...2-transactions

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                          • saudadeii
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 3447

                            My RIA Tactical has a small one. Nobody notices it because the giant billboard logo on the slide makes them look away.
                            My Marketplace Feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...k#post54003245

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                            • CheapBloke
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2019
                              • 3115

                              Originally posted by saudadeii
                              My RIA Tactical has a small one. Nobody notices it because the giant billboard logo on the slide makes them look away.
                              Lol

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                              • Robert1234
                                Veteran Member
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 3078

                                Originally posted by TomReloaded
                                No amature gunsmiths?

                                I have mill file marks on the frame of my first 1911 (cutting in a beaver tail to a GI). The gun is functionally incredible now, and I learned a lot.

                                Id rather have a file scuff on a gun I perfected myself, than a flawless one that someone else did... But I doubt this is a much shared sentiment.
                                This^

                                I have several I've built/modified (btgs install on Les Baer Hardballer, Kimber I converted to .40S&W, beveled magazine well on a Beretta Brigadier), none are Cifaldi quality aesthetics, but all are completely functional, and look nice. Any of the BTGS I've installed look miles better than those abortion "drop-in" ones you see people bragging about.

                                Do I intentionally build them ugly, or scratch them? No. But when something happens, I fix it if I can, or if it's even worth worrying about, and move on.

                                That said, ive never stipple a Glock. Too much work when I can send $20.00 to Talon Grips, and if/when I sell it, its a feature, and not a bug. Its funny, I know a lot of people who pay extra for stipple games, but won't buy a used gun already stippled. Not judging, just noticing.

                                Same on guns with replaceable grip panels. I'll stipple or epoxy & grit the inserts, but leave the frame of the gun alone. I can buy replacement panels for $5.00, but frame mods limit who I'll be able to sell it to.

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