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  • Mr. Blue
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2019
    • 2512

    Idiot Scratch/Mark (Rant)

    I have seen so many 1911’s with the dreaded idiot scratch for sale. I luckily avoided this mistake because I listened to many different 1911 owners on various subjects before I even got one. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have known about the specific things to look for, and probably would have an idiot mark myself.

    “If you want your gun to look PERFECT, just keep it in the safe.” “My gun isn’t a museum piece, its a tool.” “It shows I actually use my 1911.” Just some VERY common excuses I hear on the matter.

    I might scratch my 1911 something fierce one day, but the last thing I’ll do is make some excuse like this. I’ll try to fix it, if thats even possible. Many of these guns are wanted on the used market, in my opinion, an idiot scratch should devalue the gun, not be some trophy mark for idiotic carelessness.

    We use our cars everyday, that doesn’t mean we wash the car with steel wool...A tool can also be taken care of and kept nice. there is absolutely no reason to needlessly scratch the piss out of your gun and then make some lame excuse.

    I’m sure everyone agrees with me right? lol, just kidding. Tell me I’m wrong, I really don’t care. I’m just looking out for all the innocent 1911’s out there.

    #1911LivesMatter
    https://youtube.com/c/GatCat
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    Spyder
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2008
    • 17128

    Funny you mention that. I just scrubbed my tailgate with steel wool and bleach yesterday, to get the year and a half worth of dead animal congealed blood off of it because it was smelling enough to attract meat bees when I parked it in the sun.

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    • #3
      Beelzy
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2008
      • 9224

      It's a firearm, not a Faberge Egg. Lol
      "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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      • #4
        GeeBee49
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2020
        • 1981

        Avoiding an idiot scratch is something I work very hard at. It may happen someday and when it does I won't sell the gun or anything like that. But I will be upset because I'll know it was my fault for not being more careful.

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        • #5
          Skip_Dog
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2017
          • 2656

          If I ever scratch I will just blame it on the wife.

          Tell the fellas "this is what happens when your girl swears she can clean guns just as good as you can".

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          • #6
            Pretty fly for a Cabinetguy
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Feb 2016
            • 4232

            Originally posted by Spyder
            Funny you mention that. I just scrubbed my tailgate with steel wool and bleach yesterday, to get the year and a half worth of dead animal congealed blood off of it because it was smelling enough to attract meat bees when I parked it in the sun.
            Wilson Protector .45, Springer 9mm Loaded, Franchi Instinct SL .12ga. and some other cool stuff for the kiddos...

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            • #7
              wamphyri13
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2008
              • 2759

              Originally posted by golfrj
              Check on the 1911 Forum Search on how to modify your 1911 slide release to eliminate this problem completely! Easily done too...
              I've commented in that thread myself.
              The following statement is true.
              The preceding statement was false.

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              • #8
                hunterb
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jun 2011
                • 3796

                Originally posted by Mr. Blue
                I have seen so many 1911’s with the dreaded idiot scratch for sale. I luckily avoided this mistake because I listened to many different 1911 owners on various subjects before I even got one. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have known about the specific things to look for, and probably would have an idiot mark myself.

                “If you want your gun to look PERFECT, just keep it in the safe.” “My gun isn’t a museum piece, its a tool.” “It shows I actually use my 1911.” Just some VERY common excuses I hear on the matter.

                I might scratch my 1911 something fierce one day, but the last thing I’ll do is make some excuse like this. I’ll try to fix it, if thats even possible. Many of these guns are wanted on the used market, in my opinion, an idiot scratch should devalue the gun, not be some trophy mark for idiotic carelessness.

                We use our cars everyday, that doesn’t mean we wash the car with steel wool...A tool can also be taken care of and kept nice. there is absolutely no reason to needlessly scratch the piss out of your gun and then make some lame excuse.

                I’m sure everyone agrees with me right? lol, just kidding. Tell me I’m wrong, I really don’t care. I’m just looking out for all the innocent 1911’s out there.

                #1911LivesMatter
                100% agreed OP. My pet peeve also. It is not holster wear or wear from use, it is a scratch from carelessness and laziness.

                Either mod your slide stop or just cut a piece of old credit card to slip under the area when you reinstall the slide stop. Easily avoided with minimal effort.
                I would rather have a 1911 with lots of holster wear than a pristine one with an idiot mark. Ugh.

                slide stop mod:
                This is a modification I do on just about all slide stops as it allows easy installation and doesn't affect function. It is easily done with a needle file. To install, the slide stop is positioned directly on top of the plunger and you can feel it saddle over it and push it straight in. Bingo...

                Still in the dark after a total hard drive failure. But here or another forum in the recent past, pictures were posted of a modification to the 1911 slide stop that allows easier insertion when reassembling. The mod is a groove filed that eases the slide stop to get past the plunger pin thus...

                You should never cause idiot marks, and you won’t cause them if you re-assemble your pistol correctly. Of course, we should never wreck our cars either when we're first learning to drive, but many of us did despite our best efforts. It's the same way when you're first learning how to...
                Last edited by hunterb; 07-23-2020, 2:09 PM.
                Originally posted by johnthomas
                ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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                • #9
                  Cup of Cheese
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jun 2020
                  • 316

                  Originally posted by Spyder
                  Funny you mention that. I just scrubbed my tailgate with steel wool and bleach yesterday, to get the year and a half worth of dead animal congealed blood off of it because it was smelling enough to attract meat bees when I parked it in the sun.
                  You kill animals with your tailgate?
                  Now my mind is filled with rubber tires, and forest fires
                  And whether I'm a liar,
                  And lots of other situations where I don't know what to do,
                  At which time God screams to me "There's nothing left for me to tell you."

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                  • #10
                    VictorFranko
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 13737

                    While I'm not overly a fan of stainless steel 1911's, they do make removing idiot marks a breeze.

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                    • #11
                      Cuda440
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 3289

                      My favorite 1911 had the idiot scratch when I bought it, so I have never once had to worry about it

                      Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

                      Thomas Jefferson

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                      • #12
                        sigstroker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 19702

                        After owning Govt Models for decades, I never heard of this concern until I joined calguns.

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                        • #13
                          Full Clip
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 10263

                          Originally posted by VictorFranko
                          While I'm not overly a fan of stainless steel 1911's, they do make removing idiot marks a breeze.
                          Yes, and I need to finally rectify my own idiocy evidence...

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                          • #14
                            Rod Nokin
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 133

                            I scratched my stainless steel Sig 1911. I sent the slide to Sig to get rebead blasted or whatever they do and they must have made it worse cause they sent me a new slide with an apology. This made me really feel like crap so I'm pretty careful now.

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                            • #15
                              Mr. Blue
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2019
                              • 2512

                              Originally posted by Skip_Dog
                              If I ever scratch I will just blame it on the wife.

                              Tell the fellas "this is what happens when your girl swears she can clean guns just as good as you can".
                              Hahaha, at least someone gets the humor
                              https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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