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  • #61
    JTROKS
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 13093

    Originally posted by kyle2086
    I use factory ammo for the Desert Eagle then reload it for my 629, been using alliant 2400 with cci large pistol primers and plated bullets, and load them so their velocity is somewhere between 44 special and mag. Accurate is kinda hard to come by where I get my powder, but I'd like to try w296 sometime. Do you load 300 blackout by chance?
    The wise man said just find your place
    In the eye of the storm
    Seek the roses along the way
    Just beware of the thorns...
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    • #62
      heyjerr
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Feb 2008
      • 1187

      If you're wanting to convert to .50, make sure you buy the Mk XIX. The MkVII has a different frame and cannot take the .50 barrel. I suggest taking a few moments to read the official FAQ at http://www.magnumresearch.com/faq-DE.asp.

      The Desert Eagle requires a firm grip but has softer recoil than a revolver in the same calibre. Due to the slide's weight, the cartridge you use needs to have a certain amount of power...cheap reloads won't do the trick.
      http://zvis.com/dep/depmrra.shtml and http://zvis.com/dep/depammo.shtml
      You can run searches and find other brands that work (I use Fiocchi .44 but don't have the details handy). It helps that I have a .44 revolver (and now a lever rifle) to use up any of the lower power stuff.

      If you still encounter feeding issues while using a firm grip and strong ammo, you may need to replace the recoil spring set as they tend to wear out after a few thousand rounds. Also, avoid using the "cup and saucer" hold as it has been said to cause problems due to the mag needing to float freely.

      I never thought for a moment that this was a practical gun. It's verry heavy. But it's super fun to shoot. It gets attention just for its looks, but the fireball and big boom gets other shooters to notice it if they weren't aware one was just a few bays down from them. I bought mine BECAUSE it was impractical. I've got plenty of "practical" guns and they're fun, but I don't look forward to shooting any of them as much as I do The Eagle (I can't do "deagle"....but I didn't grow up learning about guns from video games). It only takes a round or two to put a big smile on my face.
      Oh, and it's actually quite accurate. If you can follow up the thunder and the lightning with an accurate strike, you will definitely leave an impression.
      Last edited by heyjerr; 01-08-2018, 3:15 PM.
      Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon.

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      • #63
        kurac
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 2917

        I wanted one really bad about 10 years ago but was well aware of its reputation, so I rented one in .44 mag first, glad I scratched that itch. I had to buy the range ammo, which was Federal American Eagle 240gr jacket hollow points. Its been a while but I think out of the box of 50 I got maybe two magazines to feed without some kind of issue.

        On a positive note, for this year, Magnum Research is introducing the 44DE cartridge, its basically a necked down 50AE
        www.culinagrips.com
        "custom grips for shooters by shooters"

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        • #64
          tigerpan
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 2195

          It’s cool range toy, if you pick up for good deal

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          • #65
            Ryan in SD
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 1966

            Just my .02.

            I had a chance to blow through several mags of .50 AE with a calgunners.

            It was great, I would buy one in a heartbeat if I could justify it.

            I was getting use to rapid-firing. I think it would be a good training aide. It will make your normal pistols feel like toys and a bit 'easier'.

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            • #66
              heyjerr
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Feb 2008
              • 1187

              Originally posted by Ryan in SD
              I think it would be a good training aide. It will make your normal pistols feel like toys and a bit 'easier'.
              I found this to be true as well. I took two guys out to the range and worked them upward from .22 to 9mm to .40, then .45ACP, 357mag and 44mag. They both felt the jump upward from .22 to 9mm was the biggest, so the 9mm pistols left an impression with them. After shooting .44mag, I took them back to 9mm and they couldn't believe how light the round felt. We then focused on continued training with 9mm, with which they were now much less afraid.
              Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon.

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              • #67
                FullMetalJacket
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 536

                First handgun I ever bought was a Desert Eagle, a black Mark VII .44 Magnum, all the way back in 1990.

                I got it purely for the novelty. Even in my youth, I had no illusions: it is a very impractical pistol.

                It's big and very heavy. Even if you were inclined to carry a .44 Magnum, there are much better ways to do it.

                It's not terribly reliable, and can be finicky with ammo.

                It's expensive. To get a new one now you're looking at at least $1300. And .44 Magnum is not exactly cheap to burn through.

                It's overkill for self-defense, and will likely deafen and blind you should you have to fire it within your home at night.

                HOWEVER, it is a fun and cool gun. 28 years later, I still have people ask me about it on the range. It's got pretty low recoil. And you can admire it in all those 90s action movies that used it.

                If you want something practical, I'd steer clear. But if you want it just for the fun and cool factor? I say go for it.















                I'm seriously thinking of getting a Mark XIX and converting it to .50AE.

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                • #68
                  kmas
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 1315

                  Not Stupid

                  If you can afford it, go for it - life's too short

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                  • #69
                    Robotron2k84
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 2013

                    Originally posted by kurac
                    On a positive note, for this year, Magnum Research is introducing the 44DE cartridge, its basically a necked down 50AE
                    A quick Google search returned nothing about this news. Any links?

                    Why would they not call it .44AE ? It's .45 GAP, .357 Sig and .44 Amp all over again. All of which were largely commercial failures.

                    Dumb.

                    Edit:

                    Found one site talking about it: https://www.ingunowners.com/forums/h...018-44-de.html

                    Looks to be a higher pressure .44 or a .44 round that would chamber in the 50AE barrel.

                    Still not sure WHY, though.
                    Last edited by Robotron2k84; 01-10-2018, 1:50 PM.

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