1911 or glock

[CandG]

I'll submit that the $3,000 - $6,000 2011s that are being used in competition do put much more massive quantities of lead downrange than most Glocks in circulation.

Roughly double

[Robert1234]

I'll submit that the $3,000 - $6,000 2011s that are being used in competition do put much more massive quantities of lead downrange than most Glocks in circulation.

In Limited and Open class may e. But in Production and now Carry Optics, there ain't more than a few (very few) Para PDA guns in use. Plastic and CZs rule those classifications.

[tanks]

In Limited and Open class may e. But in Production and now Carry Optics, there ain't more than a few (very few) Para PDA guns in use. Plastic and CZs rule those classifications.

1911 and 2011s are illegal in Production and Carry Optics so the point you are trying to make is moot. Also, my point was that people do use their expensive guns.

[Robert1234]

Point not moot.

Original statement: "I'll submit that the $3,000 - $6,000 2011s that are being used in competition do put much more massive quantities of lead downrange than most Glocks in circulation."

My qualifer was that the statement is only true in the Limited and Open divisions. Where the Gucci guns rule. That being said, Glock has been in hands of the winner of the Limited Nationals on more than one occasion in the last ten years. And as rare as they are in Limited and Open, that kind of proves that it's the shooter, not the arrow.

I'm not arguing the fact that there are tons of $3K-$6K guns at any USPSA match. Not even arguing that they're not better (nicer) guns than Glocks. But as Robert Vogel and Dave Sevigny proved, you don't need one to win.

And I'm not some Glock lover, I own 2011s of the STI and Caspian High Cap variety, and like them fine. I also own Glocks, and like them fine. Is one better than the other? Totally subjective. And really, who cares? Celebrate the diversity.

That said, I do like that Wilson Combat with the worn out rattle-can coating. That gun gets used, and I like guns that get used.

[wurger]

Sigh....why does it have to be either/or. Why not both.

Because, unfortunately, people seem to trend towards stupid and think that an "opinion" is even remotely related to a "fact".

[crufflers]

Yep. Variety. Even ZT and Spyderco.

[AreWeFree]

Yep. Variety. Even ZT and Spyderco.

Knife man, please post a gargantuan pile of awesome knives.

[crufflers]

Knife man, please post a gargantuan pile of awesome knives.

A pile doesn't look very attractive and I have way too many to fit in a pic. Too busy ordering pizza and drinking Sierra Nevada Pale right now... well maybe I could snap a actual pile for laughs, kind of off topic.

[AreWeFree]

A pile doesn't look very attractive and I have way too many to fit in a pic. Too busy ordering pizza and drinking Sierra Nevada Pale right now... well maybe I could snap a actual pile for laughs, kind of off topic.

a pile is absolutely necessary, post your awesome. after pizza and beer of course.

[crufflers]

[AreWeFree]

Lacks shiny...

[crufflers]

sorry man, that was the pile closest to the computer.

[AreWeFree]

sorry man, that was the pile closest to the computer.

Your hundreds of amazing steels, we're all disappoint.

[crufflers]

I think it is just you. But here's a bottle opener and kitchen gun.

[tanks]

Lacks shiny...

You want shiny, here you go