HK VP9

[Matt P]

Why not! I offered money for him to prove it. I walked my talk...

okay I retract the above. Not deleting it which would be easier.
He does not have to remove the images. It really is not that big of a deal. My apologies to the OP for hijacking his thread so badly.
I stop now...... no more interwebz for matt.

[crufflers]

My prediction is that DD is not posting right now because he is at the range making a video. I'd be more interested in seeing him shoot eight rounds from his rarely shot P7 into a quarter-sized group at 25 yards. I hope he's doing that video as well.

Sorry Matt, you are going to eat your words.

[tanks]

...Oh, and very believable shooting. Great consistency with follow up shot. But I must ask, did you find yourself simply being drawn to the same point of aim each time? Your target looks like you made the shot and simply used the same point of aim without readjusting to center it up more.

On that drill there was no follow up shot. Each shot was "bring the gun up with sights aligned", "see what you need to see", "isolate the trigger", "let recoil happen", "call the shot", "active recovery (reset during the recoil and reacquire the sights)". Repeat up to 3 times per dot. Par time of maximum of a second per shot starting from ready.

[tanks]

My prediction is that DD is not posting right now because he is at the range making a video. I'd be more interested in seeing him shoot eight rounds from his rarely shot P7 into a quarter-sized group at 25 yards. I hope he's doing that video as well.

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He has plenty of those, sold mine to him last year .

[Harley]

Kimber said DD couldn't hit the broadside of a barn....

[RotaryRevn]

Okay Gents,

The problem is, i don't have any confidence in the gun as a battle weapon (ie anytime my life is in real danger, which is not in a long time). It is constantly light striking. I took it to my local gunsmith and they cleaned it and took it apart to make sure I didnt do something to it. All checked out. Still light strikes. I read it could be a spring? Any help would be appreciated.

Then i saw MAC's torture test...oh boy...was it realistic? Not really, not all of it. Some of the things he did would never happen in real life, unless maybe you are a real active duty operator with the worst luck ever? Some of the "tests" though you would think this gun would pass, and it failed. The gun surprised me when it failed to fire after being exposed to a puddle of water. My USP would still fire, a glock would have probably still fired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOu5ZGfgtVk

I gotta admit, I had the VP9 on my buy list until I saw that torture test. The gun should have fired after being dropped in the muddy water. I decided to just stick to my glocks for now with a possible PPQ M2 in the future.

[Tere_Hanges]

This whole verify thing is getting rediculous. Who is anyone to tell someone else what pictures they are allowed post? Its not like he is posting porn. Geez.

[calif 15-22]

I gotta admit, I had the VP9 on my buy list until I saw that torture test. The gun should have fired after being dropped in the muddy water. I decided to just stick to my glocks for now with a possible PPQ M2 in the future.

I've seen that video and the subsequent one they did with the 4 bins of water, sand, dirt, and mud. I don't know I mean sure if you want a gun for a bug out SHTF where you will be living in harsh conditions then a Glock might be the right call.

For me, in my air conditioned, heated, non leaking, not very muddy house . . . I have 2 VPs (one in bedroom, one in living room) that I would trust my life and the life of my family with. I shoot the VP very well for me. Not DD well mind you, but well enough to defend my home, and enjoy at the range.

There is another video of a guy making fun of the first torture test I will post if I can find it.

Found it. The guy cracks me up. Skip to 6:00 where he drops it in the water then lays on it in the puddle

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eJr453erCAc

[Matt P]

I dropped it.... it's okay if you do too.....

[Matt P]

This whole verify thing is getting rediculous. Who is anyone to tell someone else what pictures they are allowed post? Its not like he is posting porn. Geez.

It's the Internet..... interesting you are doing exactly what you say I am doing.

Take out the pictures word and substitute " words". You're trying to tell me what I can say or not.
Hypocrite much?

[calif 15-22]

This whole verify thing is getting rediculous. Who is anyone to tell someone else what pictures they are allowed post? Its not like he is posting porn. Geez.

Lightcav Matt dropped it . . . Can we move on and back to the VP9?

I mean come on let's move on to how over priced it is, or unreliable, or how it's the bestest 9mm EVER!

[Matt P]

I actually handled one recently.
The stock trigger does indeed feel very good. I didn't weigh it but it's a clean break. I'm sure heavy, but deceptively light feeling.
I wouldn't pay any attention to someone else's torture test. The likelihood of any of us subjecting a handgun to the same abuse is so slim.
I will admit that series of HK is very impressive.

[calif 15-22]

What WOULD be interesting is to hear from some who actually had a real life failure. Not a link to someone (like the famous 686 lockup) but someone here who may have had an issue.

There are many cool guns that may not hold up to these "burying the mud" tests, but we all like them (1911's Sigs, CZ, Etc) but are still great HD guns.

[Tere_Hanges]

It's the Internet..... interesting you are doing exactly what you say I am doing.

Take out the pictures word and substitute " words". You're trying to tell me what I can say or not.
Hypocrite much?

Umm i thought you were going to drop it. Now youre going after me? Get lost fool. Go play games somewhere else.

[calif 15-22]

I actually handled one recently.
The stock trigger does indeed feel very good. I didn't weigh it but it's a clean break. I'm sure heavy, but deceptively light feeling.
I wouldn't pay any attention to someone else's torture test. The likelihood of any of us subjecting a handgun to the same abuse is so slim.
I will admit that series of HK is very impressive.

I agree. While these tests might be interesting if submitted for military contract specs, your average gunner will rarely fall in water, then mud, then sand, then dirt, with his firearm. If you are that clumsy, you really should get a Glock to be safe