Finding Custom Ivory Grips

[BlK Lantern]

ALCON:

I am interested in acquiring custom Ivory Grips for my new 1911. I'd like to know if anyone can recommend me to an individual or company.

Regards,

[mievil]

Challis grips, Dan Chinook grips. I'd give you a link but I can't use Google due to my geographical location.

[morrcarr67]

http://www.ifaw.org/united-states/news/what-does-new-us-ivory-ban-mean-buyers-sellers-and-elephants

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[morrcarr67]

https://www.fws.gov/international/travel-and-trade/ivory-ban-questions-and-answers.html#6

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[Chapped Hide]

Not going to happen in CA and won't find anyone willing to ship here.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB96

[anonymouscuban]

Sorry to sound like a dick but why would you support the Ivory trade?

And before you say that it's old ivory so it's no big deal, how can you know that what you're buying is actually old ivory?

I'm no bleeding heart but there are just some things that have zero justification and buying ivory is one of them.

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[ArmsUnlimited]

Its illegal all over the country now, you cant transfer it if you owned it prior, I think it went into effect around July 2016. California you cant even possess ivory I believe

[Quiet]

ALCON:

I am interested in acquiring custom Ivory Grips for my new 1911. I'd like to know if anyone can recommend me to an individual or company.

Regards,

FYI.
It is illegal to import, sell, advertise for sale, possess for sale, and buy ivory products in CA. [FGC 2022(b) & PC 653o(a)]




Fish and Game Code 2022
(b) Except as provided in subdivision (c), it is unlawful to purchase, sell, offer for sale, possess with intent to sell, or import with intent to sell ivory or rhinoceros horn.
(c) The prohibitions set forth in subdivision (b) do not apply to any of the following:
(1) An employee or agent of the federal or state government undertaking a law enforcement activity pursuant to federal or state law, or a mandatory duty required by federal law.
(2) An activity that is authorized by an exemption or permit under federal law or that is otherwise expressly authorized under federal law.
(3) Ivory or rhinoceros horn that is part of a musical instrument, including, but not limited to, a string or wind instrument or piano, and that is less than 20 percent by volume of the instrument, if the owner or seller provides historical documentation demonstrating provenance and showing the item was manufactured no later than 1975.
(4) Ivory or rhinoceros horn that is part of a bona fide antique and that is less than five percent by volume of the antique, if the antique status is established by the owner or seller of the antique with historical documentation demonstrating provenance and showing the antique to be not less than 100 years old.
(5) The purchase, sale, offer for sale, possession with intent to sell, or importation with intent to sell ivory or rhinoceros horn for educational or scientific purposes by a bona fide educational or scientific institution if both of the following criteria are satisfied:
(A) The purchase, sale, offer for sale, possession with intent to sell, or import with intent to sell the ivory or rhinoceros horn is not prohibited by federal law.
(B) The ivory or rhinoceros horn was legally acquired before January 1, 1991, and was not subsequently transferred from one person to another for financial gain or profit after July 1, 2016.

Penal Code 653o
(a) It is unlawful to import into this state for commercial purposes, to possess with intent to sell, or to sell within the state, the dead body, or any part or product thereof, of a polar bear, leopard, ocelot, tiger, cheetah, jaguar, sable antelope, wolf (Canis lupus), zebra, whale, cobra, python, sea turtle, colobus monkey, kangaroo, vicuna, sea otter, free-roaming feral horse, dolphin or porpoise (Delphinidae), Spanish lynx, or elephant.

[take two]

My ruger Blackhawk has stock simulated ivory grips, they look decent, I've always had an urge to put mother of pearl on my Kimber tho.

[-hanko]

I understood mastodon ivory may be used for grips, knife handles, toothpicks and other traditionally elephant ivory stuff. Am I correct?

[Quiet]

I understood mastodon ivory may be used for grips, knife handles, toothpicks and other traditionally elephant ivory stuff. Am I correct?

AFAIK...
They changed it to include mastodon ivory. [FGC 2022(a)(2)]
Change went into affect 01-01-2017.


Fish and Game Code 2022
(a) For the purposes of this section, the following terms have the following meanings:
(2) “Ivory” means a tooth or tusk from a species of elephant, hippopotamus, mammoth, mastodon, walrus, warthog, whale, or narwhal, or a piece thereof, whether raw ivory or worked ivory, and includes a product containing, or advertised as containing, ivory.
(3) “Rhinoceros horn” means the horn, or a piece thereof, or a derivative such as powder, of a species of rhinoceros, and includes a product containing, or advertised as containing, a rhinoceros horn.

[ShermanOaks]

Its illegal all over the country now, you cant transfer it if you owned it prior, I think it went into effect around July 2016. California you cant even possess ivory I believe

You can still posses and inherit ivory as long as the ivory has a watertight provenance dating way way back.

[Franklincollector]

A friend has a 1911 that he inherited from his grandfather with Ivory grips he purchased during the Korean Conflict. How would he prove its legit? Seems like the grandfathered mag law.

[Quiet]

A friend has a 1911 that he inherited from his grandfather with Ivory grips he purchased during the Korean Conflict. How would he prove its legit? Seems like the grandfathered mag law.

AFAIK...
In order to be "grandfathered", it needs to meet the requirements in FGC 2022(c)(4).
If it doesn't meet those requirements, then it is not "grandfathered".

Fish and Game Code 2022
(c) The prohibitions set forth in subdivision (b) do not apply to any of the following:
(4) Ivory or rhinoceros horn that is part of a bona fide antique and that is less than five percent by volume of the antique, if the antique status is established by the owner or seller of the antique with historical documentation demonstrating provenance and showing the antique to be not less than 100 years old.

[ShermanOaks]

AFAIK...
In order to be "grandfathered", it needs to meet the requirements in FGC 2022(c)(4).
If it doesn't meet those requirements, then it is not "grandfathered".

Fish and Game Code 2022
(c) The prohibitions set forth in subdivision (b) do not apply to any of the following:
(4) Ivory or rhinoceros horn that is part of a bona fide antique and that is less than five percent by volume of the antique, if the antique status is established by the owner or seller of the antique with historical documentation demonstrating provenance and showing the antique to be not less than 100 years old.

Yes. 100 percent correct.

Now transporting Ivory via freight and art handling companies to loan to museums, even with proper documentation, can prove challenging. Been there.