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  • #31
    deckhandmike
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2011
    • 8325

    10mm for CA and 12 gauge for Alaska. Let's be real folks.

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    • #32
      shortround1
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 993

      Maybe a 10mm revolver to keep everyone happy?

      So um... moon labia or something.

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      • #33
        smle-man
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2007
        • 10584

        Originally posted by deckhandmike
        10mm for CA and 12 gauge for Alaska. Let's be real folks.
        If I thought there was a chance of a bear encounter I'd be carrying a 12 ga in my hands. The 10 and the 44 would stay home.

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        • #34
          Stripeknight
          Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 347

          Originally posted by smle-man
          If I thought there was a chance of a bear encounter I'd be carrying a 12 ga in my hands. The 10 and the 44 would stay home.
          I know someone who never goes hiking in California on our public trails.

          Armchair commandos... luls

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          • #35
            Stripeknight
            Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 347

            Originally posted by shortround1
            Maybe a 10mm revolver to keep everyone happy?

            .454 Casull.. read the last pat of my OP

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            • #36
              k1dude
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2009
              • 15216

              Originally posted by deckhandmike
              12 gauge for Alaska. Let's be real folks.
              Try fly fishing waist deep in a river with your vest, pack, and a shotgun slung on you. No thanks. I'll keep my 10.

              Try getting that slung 12 ga into action faster than a 10mm in a chest holster. 10 wins.

              The 12 ga also takes two hands to operate. So if you don't mind letting go of your $1,500 rod/reel/line and losing it in the river, go ahead. With my 10 I can hang onto my tackle and still shoot.

              Now if you're on shore by the campfire, 12 ga no problemo.
              "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

              "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater

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              • #37
                pd5190
                Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 203

                My experience with Calif. bears and I have worked in reportedly the most heavily bear populated area of Calif. I have found they are more afraid of you then you need to be of them. We employed people to stand night bear watch and they were armed with super soakers filled with ammonia and water. You need to be armed on the trails of Calif because of two legged predators more than 4 legged ones. Actually I think you will find our mountain lions to be a greater threat than bears from a statistical stand point.

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                • #38
                  71MUSTY
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 7029

                  I'll take 10+1 Underwood 10mm in my Smith 1006 over 6 in 44mag anyday.
                  Only slaves don't need guns

                  Originally posted by epilepticninja
                  Americans vs. Democrats
                  We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                  We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                  What doesn't kill me, better run

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                  • #39
                    Franklincollector
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 931

                    If I was going through Alaska, where there are grizzly bears or moose that will kick you to death. Im off the wall I know, but I'd go with a machine pistol. MP5 in 10 mm and 30 rounds. Easy to shoot with one hand, a nice sling across the chest, you're set. Im not bringing a revolver I'm sorry. Maybe a Bap 10.
                    Last edited by Franklincollector; 02-27-2017, 10:13 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Stripeknight
                      Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 347

                      Originally posted by Franklincollector
                      If I was going through Alaska, where there are grizzly bears or moose that will kick you to death. Im off the wall I know, but I'd go with a machine pistol. MP5 in 10 mm and 30 rounds. Easy to shoot with one hand, a nice sling across the chest, you're set. Im not bringing a revolver I'm sorry. Maybe a Bap 10.
                      My good sir we just became friends.

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                      • #41
                        71MUSTY
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 7029

                        Originally posted by pd5190
                        My experience with Calif. bears and I have worked in reportedly the most heavily bear populated area of Calif. I have found they are more afraid of you then you need to be of them. We employed people to stand night bear watch and they were armed with super soakers filled with ammonia and water. You need to be armed on the trails of Calif because of two legged predators more than 4 legged ones. Actually I think you will find our mountain lions to be a greater threat than bears from a statistical stand point.
                        California Bears are more interested in your trash can then they are in you, Loud noise will usually get them headed the other direction. Mountain lions yes, and I have seen some rather intimidating feral dog packs especially when on horseback.
                        Only slaves don't need guns

                        Originally posted by epilepticninja
                        Americans vs. Democrats
                        We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                        We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                        What doesn't kill me, better run

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                        • #42
                          ja308
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 12660

                          Ive never fired a 10mm so just a few random thoughts on the topic. It was reported many FBI agents were uncomfortable with the recoil of 10MM. That said I like the concept of a mag fed gun with double stack capacity.

                          Personally I have lots of trouble shooting the 320grn Keith loads from a 44 mag.
                          So I would need hours of dry practice before I would feel confidant in shot placement.

                          As for power,Bob Peterson killed a large adult male polar bear with a 44 mag back in the 60s,so a 44 mag in capable hands will send a large bear to another dimension.

                          The 460 Rowland has lots of power but my experiance has been unreliable feeding. Consequetly it fails the most important characteristic of a defense gun for dangerous animals.

                          Facing a large angry bear or other powerful animal with any gun is a situation I would prefer not to experiance!

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                          • #43
                            Stripeknight
                            Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 347

                            there have been a lot of great and productive comments in this thread, there have also beeN several comments based on emotion and nostalgia, for those people I suggest going back and reading the original op and actually looking at the charts and doing your own math.

                            Math up.
                            Last edited by Stripeknight; 02-27-2017, 11:13 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Steponmytoes
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 652




                              Please, think of the children.

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                              • #45
                                Stripeknight
                                Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 347

                                Originally posted by Steponmytoes



                                Please, think of the children.
                                ................ just sayin!
                                Last edited by Stripeknight; 02-27-2017, 11:32 PM.

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