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  • OSTYS
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 274

    Glock 19 gen 3 failures... help!

    Alright... I tried looking this up, and the only solution to my problem I've seen on this forum to another issue that seemed the same were the lips on the California 10 round magazines being replaced... but we can rule that out, as i tried my buddies gen 4 mags at the range and they also failed on me the same way....

    Basically, my Glock 19 hangs up and refuses to go into battery without a slingshot on the last round. I've ruled out limp-wristing and magazine failures... I put 10k rounds through this pistol last year alone, and have been changing out the recoil spring every 3 or 4k (3rd stock oem replacement so far) and all the internals seem fine to me. We can also rule out improper cleaning/ care/ lube, as I fully take down this gun to do detailed cleaning every 500-1k rounds.

    It seems like it gets stuck near the bottom of the feed ramp. The pistol isn't locked... it's just halfway home. I put about 300 rounds through it at the range last night... happened about 4 or 5 times to me.

    Like I said... ruling out shooter error, negligent care and magazines, what causes this? I'll try to recreate the failure with a snap cap and see if I can get some pictures going.

    Either way... I'm optimistic... I think it's safe to assume it's probably a 5 dollar part.. and worst case scenario... I get a new one... but 10k rounds doesn't seem like the quitting point for this gun.

    Thanks guys!
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    neomedic
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3276

    what was the round capacity of the gen4 mags your tried?

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    • #3
      OSTYS
      Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 274

      Originally posted by neomedic
      what was the round capacity of the gen4 mags your tried?
      15.

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      • #4
        OSTYS
        Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 274

        I'll also add that I was shooting decent ammo... rem UMC, blazer brass, and fiocchi 9mm wadcutters. No total crap ammo... aside from the UMC

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        • #5
          DFence
          • Feb 2012
          • 1368

          Where are you located? I'm a Glock Armorer and can help you out


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          • #6
            OSTYS
            Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 274

            Originally posted by DFence
            Where are you located? I'm a Glock Armorer and can help you out


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            Huntington Beach.

            Also, now that I'm trying to simulate the failure I've been seeing, it won't have the feeding issue, of course. Funny how life works sometimes!

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            • #7
              Germ1
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 1165

              Only thing I can think of is weak magazine spring or weak recoil spring. I would buy another recoil spring and try it out. I have 11k through my 19 and the only issue I've had is having to change out the original recoil spring.

              Ps, don't pay that guy to "help you out". Try a new recoil spring first. There's a test to check your recoil spring, I'm noy going to type it out as I'm typing with one hand. My left arm is in a sling, so google recoil spring test.
              Last edited by Germ1; 03-31-2016, 1:28 PM.

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              • #8
                SkyHawk
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2012
                • 23518

                How many rounds have you run through the magazines? Could be weak mag springs. If you put 10k rounds through with no problem and it has started happening recently, I'd be suspect of mag springs before I suspected the follower.
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                • #9
                  Germ1
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1165

                  Originally posted by OSTYS
                  Huntington Beach.

                  Also, now that I'm trying to simulate the failure I've been seeing, it won't have the feeding issue, of course. Funny how life works sometimes!
                  Maybe you're limp wristing then. Let some one else fire it. Either that or the recoil spring.
                  Last edited by Germ1; 03-31-2016, 1:34 PM.

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                  • #10
                    OSTYS
                    Member
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 274

                    Originally posted by Germ1
                    Maybe you're limp wristing then. Let some one else fire it.
                    See original post, as that's been ruled out. I can also add that 3 people aside from me have seen the same failure in their hands.

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                    • #11
                      tanakasan
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1638

                      I remember seeing something somewhere about the followers needing to be changed. I'll see if I can find the info again.

                      Robert
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                      • #12
                        OSTYS
                        Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 274

                        Originally posted by SkyHawk
                        How many rounds have you run through the magazines? Could be weak mag springs. If you put 10k rounds through with no problem and it has started happening recently, I'd be suspect of mag springs before I suspected the follower.
                        Could be. I've kind of beaten the hell out of these mags... I don't do "tac reloads" where I put them away when they're spent... I drop them in the sand and keep moving. But the point is, is that new mags do the same thing as well.

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                        • #13
                          OSTYS
                          Member
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 274

                          Originally posted by tanakasan
                          I remember seeing something somewhere about the followers needing to be changed. I'll see if I can find the info again.

                          Robert
                          Again... that's been ruled out. See original post. I tried gen4 15 round OEM mags through it and saw the same failure. I read that thread already, but thanks.

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                            Germ1
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 1165

                            Originally posted by OSTYS
                            See original post, as that's been ruled out. I can also add that 3 people aside from me have seen the same failure in their hands.
                            I did read the original post. There's only so many things it can be. One, weak mag springs, two weak recoil spring, or three you're limp wristing. Like I said I would start out with doing the recoil spring test, and then replace it. They're only twelve bucks.
                            I have 11k through my 19 over the last six months. when my pistol started acting up like yours I replaced the recoil spring.

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                            • #15
                              tanakasan
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1638

                              Bent ejector? Grasping at straws here.

                              Robert
                              WTB/WTT

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