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  • NotEnoughGuns
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 1008

    Originally posted by igorts
    How much of 800X ?

    I omitted that because I think they may be a little too hot even though they were less then max load for info I could find. Only loading in new brass also. Feels like full power 357 mag out of a J frame
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    • G38xOC
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 3749

      135gr ? Never have loaded using light bullets , but I'm sure almost to the top lol

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      • Cypriss32
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2004
        • 5963

        Ill be picking up a 20SF soon, as I already have a Delta Elite. I am also considering a Kimber 10mm too.
        "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
        -- Thomas Paine


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        • RR.44
          CGSSA Leader
          • Mar 2012
          • 1933

          Originally posted by SJulian10mm
          Blew the gun up? Because most .40 cal handguns are just rechambered 9mm designs. IDK
          Sorry Sir but my HK USP .40 was designed as a .40 from the ground up, the 9mm and .45 models came later...look it up.

          Rich
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          • Echidin
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 3072

            Originally posted by glock33slinger
            In Alaska they hunt bears with 10mm for a reason.
            Do you have any links for reference?

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            • SJulian10mm
              Member
              • Jan 2016
              • 189

              Originally posted by RR.44
              Sorry Sir but my HK USP .40 was designed as a .40 from the ground up, the 9mm and .45 models came later...look it up.

              Rich
              Don't need to, already knew that, I did say most...not all...most, meaning most .40S&W chambered guns started out life as a 9mm design. Examples? All the .40 glocks, All the .40 Sigs, the Beretta 96FS, the .40 Hi-Power, the .40 CZs, nearly all of the smith semi-autos from the 90s...and Ive just scratched the surface.
              10mm Nut

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              • CandG
                Spent $299 for this text!
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Apr 2014
                • 16970

                Originally posted by Echidin
                Do you have any links for reference?
                It's definitely not a good first choice for bear hunting, although it's probably just fine for dealing with an unexpected bear while not bear hunting. I found a couple stories of bear kills with 10mm:

                This guy actually went hunting for bears with only his Glock 20:


                This backpacker killed a Grizzly with 9 rounds of .45acp, lol, maybe 10mm would've done it in 6?


                Here's a dude who dropped a black bear with 3 rounds of 10mm (2 good shots & one bad shot):
                *Look for a version of this story to be published in an upcoming issue of Bear Hunting Magazine! There is a saying that “every dog will have his day” and this most certainly applies to …


                Would a 10mm be my first choice for a grizzly hunt? No. I probably wouldn't go grizzly hunting with anything less than a semi-auto 30cal rifle or a semi-auto 12ga with slugs. But it seems to work for some people, albeit usually requiring several shots.

                Remember, an ethical hunter does not want to wound an animal, he wants to kill it as quickly and humanely as possible. Using a 10mm (or less) and firing 3, 4, 9 shots before the bear dies, seems a little irresponsible to me. That said, a self-defense situation is completely different. I don't care how much the bear is suffering if it's trying to kill me. And it's not realistic to take a .30-06 with me every time I go for a leisurely walk in the woods. Even a wheelgun is a stretch. A G29 fits the bill perfectly. I'll take 11 rounds of 10mm in a 2lb gun over 5rds of 44mag in a 3lb gun any day.
                Last edited by CandG; 03-12-2016, 6:00 PM.
                Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                • G38xOC
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 3749

                  For the first time I took my glock 29sf to the indoor range . I was shooting p320 n 10mm back to back . 10mm is loud in indoor range . I really do need to work on my accuracy. 4-5 inch group at 8 yards

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                  • smle-man
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10584

                    Originally posted by 71MUSTY
                    I have a question for the old school S&W 1006 guys.

                    Most of the newer 10mm's seem to require a barrel change to shoot .40 cal. I have been told you don't need to do anything to a 1006 to run 40 cal ammo thru it.

                    1. Is that true?

                    2. have you personally done it?

                    3. Anything I should know?

                    1. Yes

                    2. Yes

                    3. Don't do it

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                    • JTROKS
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 13093

                      My advise on 5" 1911 in 10mm is to get a fully supported chamber heavy barrel cone lock-up. A 6" slide is also a good idea in reducing slide velocity when shooting real 10mm loads.
                      The wise man said just find your place
                      In the eye of the storm
                      Seek the roses along the way
                      Just beware of the thorns...
                      K. Meine

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                      • CandG
                        Spent $299 for this text!
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 16970

                        Originally posted by G38xOC
                        For the first time I took my glock 29sf to the indoor range . I was shooting p320 n 10mm back to back . 10mm is loud in indoor range . I really do need to work on my accuracy. 4-5 inch group at 8 yards
                        Are you also hitting low and left? If so, you have the same problem as I had for a long time with my G29 - recoil anticipation. Full-power 10mm loads in the g29 really beats up your hands, and it's hard not to flinch. Do lots of dry-fire drills with it and that should help a lot. Squeeze the trigger slowly, let the break surprise you. Also consider doing a 25 cent trigger job (look that up on YouTube if you're not familiar with it). I also find that using your support hand index finger over the trigger guard grip helps a lot with controlling the mighty G29:



                        You'll notice the G29 has a grip pattern on the front of the trigger guard - that's why it's there, although people rarely use it. But give it a try.
                        Last edited by CandG; 03-12-2016, 11:25 PM.
                        Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                        • mosin of nagareth
                          Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 221

                          Originally posted by SJulian10mm
                          Ok without starting a pissing match!

                          In no particular order:
                          1. its the most power you can get in practical size semi-auto pistols (a Desert Eagle is not practical IMO)
                          2. This only really apply if you re-load, versatility in ammo loadings; on the bottom end you can load to your lightest .40S&W all the way up to the top you can load stuff well into .41 magnum territory.
                          3. This isn't so much 10mm as it is the guns its chambered in best example is the 10mm Glocks; gun versatility, 10mm handguns can be very easily converted to .40S&W, .357sig and 9X25 Dillon, and in a lot of cases with nothing more than a barrel change.
                          4. 10mm has an interesting history, its the father of .40S&W which has arguably become one of the top semi-auto cartridges in America. It remains in .40s shadow despite superior power.
                          5. Its different, out of the norm, draws a crowed at the range especially when shooting steel.
                          6. This one might just be me but I find it easy to ID my casings at the range in the sea of 9mm, .40 and .45acp 0n the ground.

                          7. Sonny Crockett

                          "Man is an animal whose dreams come true and kill him." --James Tiptree Jr.

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                          • CandG
                            Spent $299 for this text!
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 16970

                            Originally posted by mosin of nagareth
                            7. Sonny Crockett

                            Fun fact, his Bren Ten, if I remember correctly, was actually chambered in .45acp. Not sure why. Lack of 10mm blanks maybe? I dunno.
                            Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                            • G38xOC
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 3749

                              Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                              Are you also hitting low and left? If so, you have the same problem as I had for a long time with my G29 - recoil anticipation. Full-power 10mm loads in the g29 really beats up your hands, and it's hard not to flinch. Do lots of dry-fire drills with it and that should help a lot. Squeeze the trigger slowly, let the break surprise you. Also consider doing a 25 cent trigger job (look that up on YouTube if you're not familiar with it). I also find that using your support hand index finger over the trigger guard grip helps a lot with controlling the mighty G29:



                              You'll notice the G29 has a grip pattern on the front of the trigger guard - that's why it's there, although people rarely use it. But give it a try.
                              ** yea mostly low and left , right . Im definitely flinching lol . I didn't shoot much .. because em brass RO is quick sweeping my brass I was able to find few after walking down 5 lanes down . I will try that method when Im at the desert

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                              • dozer wright
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 2764

                                Originally posted by rallyfan13
                                I am looking at a G20 because, unlike members who value concealable frames, I'd like a large frame.

                                The idea of shooting .40 rounds at the range is also appealing, and the G20 seems suited for this. Also, I will not reload so costs could be lowered by training with .40 in the G20.

                                My questions: is this a reasonable approach, and do users with large hands have any complaints on the fit of the SF g20 variant?

                                Thank you.
                                I have pretty big hands I did add the houge grip wrap. The G20 Sf is a great gun.

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