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  • #31
    bohoki
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 20825

    maybe you would do better with a tokarev

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    • #32
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30242

      Originally posted by 1911su16b870
      Luger P08
      ^This.

      Glock grip angle was influenced by the Luger P08 (which has the same grip angle).
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      • #33
        NapalmCheese
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2011
        • 5954

        If you are shooting 6 inches low with the Glocks it's because your sight alignment or trigger control is bad.

        Coming from shooting Beretta 92s and 1911s when I was growing up it took a little bit of slow, methodical holster draw work before I could reliably line up the sights as part of my draw. Looking back at it now, the Glock seems to point much more naturally than other pistols.
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        • #34
          jdben92883
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 3635

          Well, if you're 6 inches low at 5 yards, you should be considerably more off at 15 yards. Methinks it's the Indian, not the arrow.

          Originally posted by rlewpolar
          6 inches low. 5, 10, 15 yds, doesn't matter.


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          • #35
            dwtt
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7470

            This grip angle gripe springs from all those XD ads when the gun was first marketed by Springfield. Before the XD, there were no ads extolling the grip angle of any handgun, and noone said much about it because the grip angle makes very little difference in handguns in production. After the XD ads came out, people started parroting the ads and talking about grip angle. If the OP can't shoot a glock well, it's not because of the grip angle. I have many handguns, and they don't all have the same grip angle, but I can shoot them all well enough to hit the target at 15 yards. Maybe the OP just needs to learn fundamentals of marksmanship instead of blaming grip angle and parroting the Springfield xd ads.

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            • #36
              Munny$hot
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 3665

              Install a Grip Force Adapter 20.00 for 2.
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              • #37
                9mmepiphany
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 8075

                Originally posted by rlewpolar
                The Browning is a Buckmark with a red dot on it and I can hit Coke can sized plates at 50 yds. Frighteningly accurate.
                So we're talking 6" groups

                That combined with this:
                6 inches low. 5, 10, 15 yds, doesn't matter.
                ...would tell me that it is indeed an operator error.

                If you just want to prove it to yourself, shoot the gun over a solid rest and report back on where the shots are striking.

                I'd venture to guess that any error in shot placement is smaller than your ability to hold a group of shots
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                • #38
                  9mmepiphany
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 8075

                  Originally posted by Lead Waster
                  The grip angle is determined by the design of the magazines, the feeding angle of the rounds from the magazine and its relationship to the barrel and slide.
                  While the above sounds reasonable on it's face, it is actually flawed reasoning.

                  Otherwise how would you explain the almost vertical magazine of the H&K P7 being used with a similar grip angle of the Glock
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                  • #39
                    Skeez
                    Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 325

                    ...
                    Last edited by Skeez; 11-03-2015, 12:22 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Trakker
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 967

                      Who is going to come out with a Glock with 1911 grip angle?
                      XD tried to mimic this. M&P.
                      But if Glock were to revise the tooling, it may be interesting.

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                      • #41
                        robodeer
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 561

                        An ergonomic single stack with a 1911 grip angle would be intriguing.
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                        • #42
                          static2126
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 5619

                          Originally posted by rlewpolar
                          Decent groupings. With my Sigs, I can shoot out the center consistently. Shield is a bit more work but I hit where I want. The Browning is a Buckmark with a red dot on it and I can hit Coke can sized plates at 50 yds. Frighteningly accurate. I get behind a Glock and man, horrible.


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                          When you say shoot out the center what is the group size?

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                          • #43
                            Click Boom
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 6955

                            I have guns with all different grip angles and I honestly don't notice the difference when shooting them at all.

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                            • #44
                              timbo399
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1765

                              Originally posted by rlewpolar
                              I am baffled. Going to go to the range again next week and shoot some more Glocks with friends. They have everything ranging from the 26 to 17 and some .40, maybe the 23, can't remember. I want to figure this out.




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                              I wouldn't try and force yourself to like Glocks. I have nothing against them and like you, I wish I shot them better cause then I'd definitely own a few. But I bought a gen 3 Glock 17 5 yrs ago and just was not nearly as accurate as my other 9mm's. instead of spending thousands of rounds to learn how to shoot it well, no reason w all the options out there can't find something shoot better right out of the box. For 9mm's, I shot my Beretta 92 better than I could have imagined first time took it to the range, so now I own 2. For striker fired, I found I shot the S&W M&P better out of the box as well so own a few of those now.

                              As far as the legendary Glock reliability , which I'm not doubting that they're reliable and can take a beating, I've never had any issues w any of the semis I own, and that includes 5 1911's.

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                              • #45
                                Escobar
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 544

                                its as natural as holding your.....

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