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  • rlewpolar
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 1447

    Glock grip angle

    Can anyone explain to me why Glock chose the grip angle it did? It seems so unnatural compared to any other handgun that I've shot. I really want to get a Glock, I think they are superbly made but I literally cannot hit a thing with them.

    What is the rationale for having this grip angle? And more importantly, is it natural for a select group of shooters out there? Seems that wrist and hand angles in relation to a grip, slide, etc would be fairly consistent from shooter to shooter. It's almost like buying a great pair of shoes that you need to roll your ankle slightly to get into and wear around.

    Educate me on the Glock grip angle and what can be done to overcome it. Not sure I want to relearn how to shoot to accommodate a Glock but I have an open mind. The ones I've shot are very nice mechanically.


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    TruEdge
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 1672

    I think you just need to get used to it and practice. For me it feels extremly natural and I can shoot it better then most of my guns. For you it just feels strange because you haven't shot it much. My first handgun was a glock so thats why its so natural to me.
    The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)"

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    • #3
      tankton
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 511

      It is natural if you haven't been shooting other guns, first. Just like other guns are natural of you haven't shot anything with a sharper grip angle, first.

      At any rate, the grip angle was determined by a sport shooter in the Austrian military. He advised Glock on what the grip angle should be, based off of pointing angles of cadets (a similar process HK used for the grip angle on th P7).

      But it is really all moot. How well someone shoots a gun has absolutely nothing to do with the grip angle (that's for point shooting, really), and more with getting used to one thing or another.

      Edit: on another note, the grip angle strongly influences bore axis height, since the muscles and bones in our arms (wrt to our wrist bones / wrist angle) are a part of how we handle recoil.
      Last edited by tankton; 10-10-2015, 5:21 PM.

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      • #4
        davidb
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 1769

        Time behind the gun, its a weird angle and you just have to get used to it

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        • #5
          BoJackUSMC
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2010
          • 7091

          Glock... love or hate relationship...
          You just have to get used to it....I never liked military M9 handgun, but I still used it because I was given that sidearm.

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          • #6
            tbc
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2011
            • 5955

            Where were your POI's?


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            • #7
              rlewpolar
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 1447

              Glock grip angle

              Originally posted by HopetonBrown
              If you "literally cannot hit a thing with them", it's not because of the grip angle.

              By this I mean I have to aim 6 inches high to hit where I want to hit. Always the same no
              matter which Glocks I try. All have been stock sights and trigger. I don't get it. Probably just me. I don't have this problem with the Sigs, Shiield and Browning I own. I'm stumped.


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              Last edited by rlewpolar; 10-10-2015, 5:48 PM.

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              • #8
                tbc
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2011
                • 5955

                Glock grip angle

                Originally posted by rlewpolar
                By this I mean I have to aim 6 inches high to hit where I want to hit. Always the same no
                matter which Glocks I try. All have been stock sights and trigger. I don't get it. Probably just me. I don't have this problem with the Sigs, Shiield and Browning I own. I'm stumped.


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                So are you saying you were shooting low on a Glock?


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                • #9
                  rlewpolar
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1447

                  Originally posted by tbc
                  Where were your POI's?


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                  6 inches low. 5, 10, 15 yds, doesn't matter.


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                  • #10
                    rlewpolar
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1447

                    Originally posted by tbc
                    So are you saying you were shooting low on a Glock?


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                    Yes. Should I be hitting high with that grip angle? Maybe I am using the wrong sight picture?


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                    • #11
                      TruEdge
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 1672

                      Bore axis is a lot lower then most pistols too maybe thats compounding the situation?
                      The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)"

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                      • #12
                        tbc
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 5955

                        Glock grip angle

                        Definitely not the grip angle. When you held a Glock with the way you held your Sig, the Glock's muzzle should have pointed upward thus your POI's should have been high not low. Try to work on your trigger control on a Glock.


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                        • #13
                          rlewpolar
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 1447

                          Might be the trigger. I was shooting low with my Shield till I swapped out the trigger for an Apex. Maybe a stiff trigger with a light polymer gun is not good for me. My Shield had almost a nine pound trigger when I first got it. I learned how to shoot on metal guns so maybe that's it.


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                          • #14
                            static2126
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 5619

                            How well you shoot a gun has nothing to do with grip angle.

                            What are your usual groups at 10 yards?
                            Last edited by static2126; 10-10-2015, 6:09 PM.

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                            • #15
                              rlewpolar
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 1447

                              Decent groupings. With my Sigs, I can shoot out the center consistently. Shield is a bit more work but I hit where I want. The Browning is a Buckmark with a red dot on it and I can hit Coke can sized plates at 50 yds. Frighteningly accurate. I get behind a Glock and man, horrible.


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