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  • #61
    himurax13
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 3895

    I thought Armscor was contracted out to make the Spartans. I highly doubt those would command a $2k price tag.
    Originally posted by Bumslie
    HK - the best 600 dollar gun, 900 dollars can buy.
    Originally posted by Sleighter
    Getting legal advice from a gun salesman, is like getting medical advice from a janitor at a hospital. Both make about the same per hour and both prove that being around something all day doesn't make you an expert.

    Lifetime NRA member.

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    • #62
      JTROKS
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2007
      • 13093

      The STI Rangemaster is a sought after. It's a match fit pistol. It seems STI has a nice line of 1911s.

      My brain was somewhere else when I typed Spartan, no it's not $2k, but the Rangemaster is.
      The wise man said just find your place
      In the eye of the storm
      Seek the roses along the way
      Just beware of the thorns...
      K. Meine

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      • #63
        keenkeen
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2011
        • 6782

        Originally posted by JTROKS
        The STI Rangemaster is a sought after. It's a match fit pistol. It seems STI has a nice line of 1911s.

        My brain was somewhere else when I typed Spartan, no it's not $2k, but the Rangemaster is.
        I was planning on a Range Master purchase for a while but ended up with the Tactical 5.0 SS model instead...

        Very nice build quality.
        "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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        • #64
          Robert1234
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 3080

          Originally posted by Euphoria526
          There's no real price gauging for either of those pistols.
          Those are prices that aren't inflated compared to before SSE......
          Spartan is discontinued now while the Trojan is still being made.
          They may not be, but in free states Springfield Range Officers are in the $750.00 range (Bud's Gun Shop), even if I have to replace the ignition parts with Cylinder and Slide parts, that's an additional $100.00 or so. That makes it $850.00. Or go for the Dawson Competition Ready Package (CRP) at $998.00. SSE theoretically adds the same amount to the cost of either gun.

          For a gun that's of similar quality to the Trojan, which sells for $1,198.00 or $1,298.00 for the CRP package (Dawson Precision prices).

          And the Springfield Armory gun has a forged frame if you care about such things. I'm not saying it makes the gun any better, but it seems to matter to a lot of people, and STI uses forged frames on their higher end guns (anything above the Trojan).

          I'm not speaking ill of STI products, they make some nice stuff. I use their slides when I build or update my guns (built a Caspian High Cap and turned a Kimber into a .40 S&W) cause they have a great reputation and their prices are good. I'm just noting that you can get similar guns in the Single Stack arena from competing manufacturers for less money. If you can find a Trojan for $1,200.00-$1,300.00, you're not paying a premium compared to Trojan prices, but it's considerably more than a Springfield. If that doesn't bother you, by all means, buy the Trojan. I'm sure it'll be a great gun.

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          • #65
            Ranger20
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 1610

            I owned a stainless springer target 9mm it was darn fun to shoot and accurate.
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            • #66
              vliberatore
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Dec 2011
              • 10055

              I wouldn't bother with a 9mm 1911.

              A 9mm 2011 on the other hand...
              Originally posted by fighterpilot562
              Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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              • #67
                JTROKS
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2007
                • 13093

                On the other hand a 2011 is not available to non exempt gun buyers, soooooo....
                The wise man said just find your place
                In the eye of the storm
                Seek the roses along the way
                Just beware of the thorns...
                K. Meine

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                • #68
                  Robert1234
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3080

                  Originally posted by JTROKS
                  On the other hand a 2011 is not available to non exempt gun buyers, soooooo....
                  Not true, the Bar Sto 2011 is on the California "safe" handgun roster.

                  I believe Infinity has a gun on the roster as well.

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                  • #69
                    vliberatore
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 10055

                    Originally posted by JTROKS
                    On the other hand a 2011 is not available to non exempt gun buyers, soooooo....
                    If only there was a way to manufacture your own...
                    Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                    Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                    • #70
                      BoJackUSMC
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 7091

                      1911 9mm, soooo fun to shoot.

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                      • #71
                        Robert1234
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 3080

                        Originally posted by vliberatore
                        If only there was a way to manufacture your own...
                        Yeah, if only someone could legally produce a frame from say, an 80% paperweight from a place like Limited-10.com...

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                        • #72
                          JTROKS
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 13093

                          Originally posted by Robert1234
                          Not true, the Bar Sto 2011 is on the California "safe" handgun roster.

                          I believe Infinity has a gun on the roster as well.
                          True, but it's not in 9mm.

                          It's not hard getting another upper in 9mm. So yeah it will work.
                          The wise man said just find your place
                          In the eye of the storm
                          Seek the roses along the way
                          Just beware of the thorns...
                          K. Meine

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                          • #73
                            FightonKC
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 40

                            Originally posted by ferrisbueller
                            Three of my friends and I just bought the Springfield. Two of us have a "Failure to Lock on the Last Round". I've sent an email to Springfield and waiting for a response. As for accuracy and feel... it's definitely not like my Ed Brown that I compete with. I'm considering sending it back to Ed Brown to see what they could do about it. Their smiths are very good about turn-around time and have a very good customer service. They tend to undercharge me most of the time. When do you hear that nowadays.
                            mine was like this at first too.. but after 200 rounds through, I haven't had any problems with it.

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                            • #74
                              Josh3239
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 9197

                              Originally posted by Iknownot
                              OP: Here's one more suggestion. I realize it's outside of what you are looking at, but I feel like I have to throw it out there:

                              Browning High Power. It's a better 9mm "1911-ish" than a 9mm 1911. At least try one out side by side with any 1911 9mms you may be looking at.

                              (IMO, 9mm 1911's are a solution in search of a problem)
                              Originally posted by keenkeen
                              As someone who owns many 1911s in many calibers and a handful of Hi-Powers in a few calibers...I couldn't disagree more.

                              To each their own however.
                              I have many 1911s, mostly Springfield. One SA 9mm and one RIA 9mm and I am buuilding another 9mm. I have a FN Hi Power as well.

                              I agree with KeenKeen. The HP is not a 1911 in 9mm, it is a different animal. Personally I find the 1911 9mm fills a very good niche. Both great handguns, both comparable, but not the same.

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                              • #75
                                morrcarr67
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 15045

                                Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                                Originally posted by Erion929

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