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  • #46
    Citadelgrad87
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2007
    • 16961

    Originally posted by Bill Steele
    The so called Glock Bulge is very easily addressed for the shooter that wants to use Glock shot brass in a tighter chamber. It is called a Redding G-Rx die.

    I like to shoot my hot 40S&W and 10mm rounds through both my stock Glocks and my 1911's, some of which have very tight chambers. I pass every single 40 and 10mm case through a Redding G-Rx after cleaning but before size and de-prime. This ensures any case I reload will chamber in any gun I own.

    This is not rocket science.
    Have you been killed by this highly dangerous practice?
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    Originally posted by el chivo
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    • #47
      JDay
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2008
      • 19393

      Originally posted by Bill Steele
      Again, absolute nonsense.
      Keep fooling yourself all you want. This is a well known and documented design flaw.

      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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      • #48
        Bill Steele
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 5028

        Originally posted by JDay
        It will fit in a resizing die though.



        You don't want that area giving.
        That case is what is called smiled. That has nothing to do with the generous Glock chamber dimension.

        A smiled case is caused by two circumstances. Waaaay to much pressure from an over charge or a malfunctioning gun. Period.

        The pictured case doesn't happen in properly functions guns that are loaded with ammo that is loaded to SAAMI spec.

        If you are just misinformed, you should become informed before posting this kind of nonsense. If you are informed, I think the kids call this "being a troll".
        When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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        • #49
          Bill Steele
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2010
          • 5028

          Originally posted by JDay
          Keep fooling yourself all you want. This is a well known and documented design flaw.

          A well documented design flaw? Really?

          Dude, millions of rounds are shot through Glocks every year. Kabooms are over charges, period.
          When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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          • #50
            eaglemike
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2008
            • 3943

            I've seen aftermarket parts allow Glocks to fire out of battery, especially when combined with (incompletely) resized brass and tired recoil springs. .40 has been the worst, and caused blowouts in the area above the ramp.

            The generous radius in the Dillon dies can allow the part of the bulge to stay. Other dies can size farther down the case, and this is a good thing.
            There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

            It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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            • #51
              Bill Steele
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 5028

              Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
              Have you been killed by this highly dangerous practice?
              There used to be an old saying, "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.."

              My new saying is, "when the last informed shooter gets fed up setting the record straight from all the trolls, only trolls will be on Calguns.."

              Close to the edge here brother.
              When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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              • #52
                PseudoTsuga
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 803

                Originally posted by JDay
                Keep fooling yourself all you want. This is a well known and documented design flaw.

                You can see it's a double-charge by the printing on the primer.
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                -F. Scott Fitzgerald

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                • #53
                  JDay
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19393

                  Originally posted by PseudoTsuga
                  You can see it's a double-charge by the printing on the primer.
                  The primer would have been pushed out. That case wall failed from being bulged.
                  Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                  The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                  • #54
                    Citadelgrad87
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 16961

                    Originally posted by JDay
                    The primer would have been pushed out. That case wall failed from being bulged.
                    No, it would not. The breech face prevents that. That's why flattened primers, not blown primers, are a recognized sign of excessive pressure.

                    Note the rectangle where the primer flowed into the firing pin depression, as well as the narrowing of the joint between the case and the primer, easily distinguishable from the other case.

                    Stop digging.
                    Originally posted by tony270
                    It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                    Originally posted by repubconserv
                    Print it out and frame it for all I care
                    Originally posted by el chivo
                    I don't need to think at all..
                    Originally posted by pjsig
                    You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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                    • #55
                      himurax13
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3895

                      Originally posted by Bill Steele
                      I am probably missing some sarcasm here, but for those that don't reload, so don't know any better, dented cases (anywhere on the case) makes no difference whatsoever to reloading. The dies you pass the brass through straighten it out.

                      There are instances where a case will slam the slide mid body of the case and put a crease that sizing, flaring and crimp dies won't remove, these creases get straightened out by the pressure in the case on the next firing.
                      Well it seems you are fairly dense.

                      Properly dented brass is pretty much ruined. Having the top of the slide slammin down onto the neck usually creases the brass, therefore making it an unsafe situation to reload. The creases in the middle may not be as drastic but still unsafe since it is altering the internal volume of the case and that it is not in proper spec.

                      Even if you manage to straighten it out with a resizing die, then the powder die, you will probably see a remnant of the crease.

                      If you want to take the the risk, thats on you. I would just toss it.
                      Originally posted by Bumslie
                      HK - the best 600 dollar gun, 900 dollars can buy.
                      Originally posted by Sleighter
                      Getting legal advice from a gun salesman, is like getting medical advice from a janitor at a hospital. Both make about the same per hour and both prove that being around something all day doesn't make you an expert.

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                      • #56
                        Bill Steele
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5028

                        Originally posted by himurax13
                        Well it seems you are fairly dense.

                        Properly dented brass is pretty much ruined. Having the top of the slide slammin down onto the neck usually creases the brass, therefore making it an unsafe situation to reload. The creases in the middle may not be as drastic but still unsafe since it is altering the internal volume of the case and that it is not in proper spec.

                        Even if you manage to straighten it out with a resizing die, then the powder die, you will probably see a remnant of the crease.

                        If you want to take the the risk, thats on you. I would just toss it.
                        Instead of arguing about things you clearly know absolutely nothing about, I am just going to recommend to anyone who doesn't know if Jday or himurax13 actually know anything about which they are posting, whether for a Glock or otherwise, just go onto any dedicated reloading forums (there is one here on Calguns, there is an excellent one on Glock Talk Forums, Brian Enos, etc.), maybe posts some of the pictures on this thread and ask the questions.

                        Is it safe to reload for Glock pistols? 40S&W or otherwise?

                        Does a dent at the case mouth make the case unsafe to reload?

                        Post this picture (from the initial posts) and ask them if this brass is unsafe to reload?

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                        Any other disputed questions on this thread.

                        You will get prompt answers from experienced reloaders and you then know how much these numbskulls know about reloading.

                        You really take the cake.
                        Last edited by Bill Steele; 03-31-2015, 4:45 PM.
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                        • #57
                          himurax13
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 3895

                          Originally posted by Bill Steele
                          Instead of arguing about things you clearly know absolutely nothing about, I am just going to recommend to anyone who doesn't know if Jday or himurax13 actually know anything about which they are posting, whether for a Glock or otherwise, just go onto any dedicated reloading forums (there is one here on Calguns, there is an excellent one on Glock Talk Forums, Brian Enos, etc.), maybe posts some of the pictures on this thread and ask the questions.

                          Is it safe to reload for Glock pistols? 40S&W or otherwise?

                          Does a dent at the case mouth make the case unsafe to reload?

                          Post this picture (from the initial posts) and ask them if this brass is unsafe to reload?

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                          Any other disputed questions on this thread.

                          You will get prompt answers from experienced reloaders and you then know how much these numbskulls know about reloading.

                          You really take the cake.
                          Well since you want to be an ahole about it, here are some prime examples of what I toss out.


                          Now the pics the op posted is probably not much to worry about but tossing out questionable brass is never a bad idea, especially if it is a .40 and has glock firing pin marks on the primer. That is far cheaper than replacing a pistol. I have made well over 200k pistol rounds without any hiccups other than a slighlty undercharged load once in a blue moon. I prefer not having ammo issues while out at the range.

                          I also prefer running KKM barrels in all of my .40 cal glocks and running recoil springs that are appropriate for my loads.
                          Last edited by himurax13; 03-31-2015, 8:41 PM.
                          Originally posted by Bumslie
                          HK - the best 600 dollar gun, 900 dollars can buy.
                          Originally posted by Sleighter
                          Getting legal advice from a gun salesman, is like getting medical advice from a janitor at a hospital. Both make about the same per hour and both prove that being around something all day doesn't make you an expert.

                          Lifetime NRA member.

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                          • #58
                            kalapa
                            Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 359

                            Guess I need to stop reloading my Glock then.. didn't realize I was flirting with so much danger!

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                            • #59
                              faris1984
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 2387

                              Originally posted by Steve_In_29
                              Wait...I though Glocks were perfect and never had any problems?
                              LMAO.

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                              • #60
                                Bill Steele
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 5028

                                Originally posted by himurax13
                                Well since you want to be an ahole about it, here are some prime examples of what I toss out.

                                Now the pics the op posted is probably not much to worry about but tossing out questionable brass is never a bad idea, especially if it is a .40 and has glock firing pin marks on the primer. That is far cheaper than replacing a pistol. I have made well over 200k pistol rounds without any hiccups other than a slighlty undercharged load once in a blue moon. I prefer not having ammo issues while out at the range.

                                I also prefer running KKM barrels in all of my .40 cal glocks and running recoil springs that are appropriate for my loads.

                                You know it is funny. There was a time when childish name calling would get people banded on Calguns. Frankly, if I were a mod I would ban people that persisted in posting bad information (I think they call that trolling), but I guess its the internet where guys can post anything and get away with it.

                                In any case, what we were talking about all along in this thread were the dented cases that the OP posted in the first few pictures (which I just reposted).

                                Earlier in the thread, you posted that Glocks produced bulged brass that would not fit in a case gauge after reloading. I explained how that was handled with a Redding G-Rx die. You posted that dented brass from the OP's gun should not be reloaded. I explained I thought you were being sarcastic, as I could not imagine anyone who ever actually reloaded, thinking the brass in the OP's picture could not be reloaded after they had been processed through the normal dies.

                                After this, you come on and call me dense (something I have to admit I have never been called before). I decide I cannot reason with someone who clearly has not a clue about reloading and so suggested that anyone who might not have already decoded that you might be incorrect about the merit of reloading the OP's brass, should just go on a dedicated reloading site and ask. Basically verifying your knowledge.

                                Lastly, you come on, call me another pretty immature name and proceed to post pictures of seriously damaged brass and expect me to allow you to change the subject, which was the OP's dented cases. No experienced reloader would hesitate reloading the OP's dented brass.

                                Here is the deal. I have been loading for a pretty long time, longer I suspect than you have been breathing. You may have reloaded a round or two, but you present yourself as someone who knows what they are talking about on the subject and you clearly are not.

                                Give it a rest before you say something else really immature (or wrong).
                                Last edited by Bill Steele; 03-31-2015, 9:43 PM.
                                When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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