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  • #46
    umd
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 1703

    Originally posted by morrcarr67
    You're correct.

    But, name one manufacture that has made it as a bolt action or breaktop single shot firearm.

    To avoid the Zipgun laws you need to make it just like some licensed manufacturer has.

    To avoid the roster you need to build it as a bolt action or breaktop single shot firearm.
    There's like 5 or 6 different single shot uppers that would qualify.

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    • #47
      morrcarr67
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2010
      • 15034

      Originally posted by umd
      There's like 5 or 6 different single shot uppers that would qualify.
      True.

      What manufacturer has built a complete functioning bolt action or break top single shot 1911?

      Sent from my DROID RAZR HD
      Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

      Originally posted by Erion929

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      • #48
        umd
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 1703

        Originally posted by morrcarr67
        What manufacturer has built a complete functioning bolt action or break top single shot 1911?
        Springfield SASS, Thor Raptor, at least.

        Pretty soon, Limited-10...

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        • #49
          morrcarr67
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 15034

          Originally posted by umd
          Springfield SASS, Thor Raptor, at least.

          Pretty soon, Limited-10...
          Cool. That gives us a way to avoid the Zipgun laws. [emoji41]

          Sent from my DROID RAZR HD
          Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

          Originally posted by Erion929

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          • #50
            JackRydden224
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2011
            • 7229

            It makes you wonder if the Ghost Gunner CNC mill be able to handle 80% 1911 frames given the correct programming.

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            • #51
              MMXX
              Member
              • May 2013
              • 349

              Just build the 80% 1911 as a single shot, then convert it once everything is finished.

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              • #52
                johnonymous
                Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 189

                One thing I've never seen debated:

                If I legally manufacture a firearm out of state, nothing I've seen seems to forbid me from then importing it to California (and of course registering it with the state within 60 days). The same way as if I were to import a firearm that I had legally purchased in my previous state of residence and left there after I moved.

                Unless there is some federal prohibition on manufacturing firearms in a state one is not a resident of, or something along those lines.

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                • #53
                  morrcarr67
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 15034

                  Originally posted by johnonymous
                  One thing I've never seen debated:

                  If I legally manufacture a firearm out of state, nothing I've seen seems to forbid me from then importing it to California (and of course registering it with the state within 60 days). The same way as if I were to import a firearm that I had legally purchased in my previous state of residence and left there after I moved.

                  Unless there is some federal prohibition on manufacturing firearms in a state one is not a resident of, or something along those lines.
                  NO.

                  It would probably fall under the new dual resident law that requires that all handguns acquired while out of state must be sent to a CA FFL for transfer and that such handgun must be on the CA roster.
                  Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                  Originally posted by Erion929

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                  • #54
                    edgerly779
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 19871

                    You cannot be a ca resident and finish an 80% 1911 out of state and bring back. That has been posted on here.

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                    • #55
                      lorax3
                      Super Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 4633

                      Originally posted by johnonymous
                      Unless there is some federal prohibition on manufacturing firearms in a state one is not a resident of, or something along those lines.
                      There is.

                      transport into or receive in the State where he resides (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, the State where it maintains a place of business) any firearm purchased or otherwise obtained by such person outside that State
                      You think you know, but you have no idea.

                      The information posted here is not legal advice. If you seek legal advice hire an attorney who is familiar with all the facts of your case.

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                      • #56
                        lorax3
                        Super Moderator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 4633

                        And I agree with RickD on the manufacturing of a 80% 1911. You can do it so long as it stays in a bolt-action or break-top configuration. Converting it back to semi-auto puts you at risk for "manufacturing" an unsafe handgun under PC32000.

                        [T]he words "manufactures," "produces" and "processes" do not have separate technical meanings apart from those attributed to them in general usage. (See People v. Combs (1985) 165 Cal. App. 3d 422, 427 [211 Cal.Rptr. 617].) Both the dictionary definition and the commonsense, everyday usage of these terms entail notions of the ongoing and progressive making, assembly or creation of an item by hand or machine. (Ibid.; People v. Tierce, supra, 165 Cal. App. 3d at p. 266.).People v. Jackson, 218 Cal. App. 3d 1503
                        I've hashed this out before. See this thread.

                        You think you know, but you have no idea.

                        The information posted here is not legal advice. If you seek legal advice hire an attorney who is familiar with all the facts of your case.

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                        • #57
                          johnonymous
                          Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 189

                          Originally posted by lorax3
                          There is.
                          Good to know, thank you.

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